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"Drobo is not a substitute for creating backups" For its price and what it does, Drobo is not quite worth the money since you still need to create backup copies of your data somewhere other than Drobo to really be completely safe from data loss.
I bought Drobo after my main drive started to fail and I became concerned for my difficult to replace data. I happened to watch a video about drobo and the glory of drobo ownership and was quickly sold on the idea that drobo with its proprietary RAID redundancy would be the complete solution for my need of data redundancy and backups. WRONG.
To quote the Drobo documentation: "Drobo guards everything on it Even when a drive fails or data becomes corrupted, you're protected."
After my experience what I now interpret this statement to really means is that if your Drobo data is corrupted, Drobo will keep redundant copies of that corrupted data. But it doesn't mean that Drobo is complete protection from data corruption.
Rightly or wrongly I was formerly under the mistaken thinking that Drobo was fault tolerant enough to protect my data against all situations short of things like natural disasters such as fire, flood or theft of Drobo itself. I found that a simple power failure can cause Drobo to perhaps corrupt the Drobo file system (and your data).
Drobo had some sort of problem a few days ago, I powered off my PC (running WinXP Pro) and went to bed, I wake up a few hours later and Drobo's lights are still all green blue with the fans and drives still spun up and haven't shut down. My PC powered down hours ago but Drobo had been stuck for hours doing something. Strange because I hadn't written or read anything from Drobo before powering down. Restarting the computer Drobo wouldn't mount itself as it normally does, so I powered off my PC and unplugged Drobo in attempt to soft-reset it. That apparently is a dangerous/bad thing to do!
Then I powered on my PC and the system froze during startup for several minutes and the Drobo drive didn't want to mount, but waiting another 20 minutes I could finally see the drobo drive show up in the file explorer but if I tried to access the drive windows explorer would freeze and a few minutes later timeout returning an error stating that the Drobo drive or file system was corrupted. I had about 500GB of data now not accessible, possibly destroyed. I was upset.
The Drobo user guide states: "Drobo manages interruptions to power automatically and has an internal rechargeable battery that preserves data being written during an outage."
This stated Drobo product feature seemed not to protect me in my situation.
I did some google searches looking for solutions to my corrupted Drobo and found out that some others had similar issues.
I shut down windows, waited for the drobo to go into standby and power cycled Drobo and that seemed to help, Drobo would start up more quickly and after the power cycle and the Drobo Advanced Controls tool reported that drobo was healthy and "Your data is protected" but Windows was still complaining that the Drobo drive or file system was corrupted and not allowing me access any of the Drobo data.
I eventually opened a command prompt and did a "CHKDSK \F" on the failed Drobo drive and let that run, after a few minutes CHKDSK started printing output to the console and was reporting finding errors and went about 'fixing' them. At the end of this process I could access the Drobo drive again and all the files except for the dozen or so files that chkdsk deleted in its repair. Luckily for me none of the lost files were irreplaceable.
I no longer rely solely on Drobo for disaster recovery, I now create backup copies of critical files that I store on Drobo, on another non-drobo disk.
Some more details, for those readers which are saying to themselves that I was probably doing something systematically wrong or nothing is idiot proof... My setup is powered by a line conditioning UPS, and no at no time did I pull the USB cable out in the during the middle of a write or read of data to the Drobo filesystem, and I did only what I stated above I didn't omit any goofy steps.
I have adjusted my thinking about what Drobo does for me and now just think of it as a big (relatively slow) drive. But at least I'm saving the environment a little bit since Drobo spins down the drives when I'm not using them. Too bad there doesn't seem to be a way to configure that power saving behavior, it would be nice to have more knobs on the thing for tuning various things or more diagnostic tools. I'm not sure why drobo can't help the user run check disk on windows. Reading forum posts elsewhere data robotics seems to take the stance that filesystem issues are not their problem and the operating system's fault or the user's problem to deal with. This seems somewhat at odds with the Drobo marketing which lead me to an unrealistic expectations of what Drobo does and does not do. Drobo is somewhat sold as a magic black box that is practically zero maintenance, green light - good, red light - bad, flashy light - don't touch... but it's a bit more complicated than that to operate.
I now slightly regret not giving more consideration to building a RAID5 system myself or buying a RAID1 NAS device instead. Though doing RAID5 I would have had to re-stage my machine and probably would have had to change the operating system to Linux since the Windows RAID5 support isn't very good. That's part of the reason why I chose to let the storage robot deal with that hassle. But not wanting hassles probably the RAID1 NAS box would have been better alternative solution for me rather than Drobo for the money, since to get Drobo on the network you have to spend an additional $199 for DroboShare.
I still like Drobo but I think a better price point for Drobo would be $300, at least until more features and tools are added, until then its kind of overpriced.
If you are thinking of purchasing a Drobo I would caution you to consider creating back ups of your critical Drobo data on something else that is not Drobo.
"The best little storage robot ever!" I recently received my Drobo as a birthday gift. Previously, I had been using two external hard drives (Seagate 500GB and Western Digital 1TB). After opening the box, I was able to read through the material provided and set up the Drobo within minutes. I had already purchased a 1TB Samsung SATA drive so I put that in the first bay. Since I didn't have another drive ready, I disassembled my Western Digital external drive and used that in the second slot. After that it was all downhill.
I simply installed the supplied software and followed the on-screen instructions. After about 10 minutes, my Drobo was ready. I then began the diliberate process of moving everything off my 250GB internal drive and my 500GB Seagate drive onto my new 2TB (1TB storage, 1TB backup) Drobo. I connected via Firewire 800, so even though I was moving several hundred Gigs of data, it only took a little over an hour.
Now I am completely Drobotized and I still have 50% of my 1TB effective capacity available. And I still have two extra drive bays for future growth. This device is the best little storage robot ever! It will serve me well for years to come.
One hint when setting up your Drobo... select the option to set the Drobo up as a 16TB drive. Even though you don't have that much hard disk space, it will give you flexibility in the future without having to reinitialize the system.
"Excellent near line back up storage" I wrote a lengthy review for the USB only device some time ago and thought it best to sum up what task this box is best for, and if used in this manner it is a 5 out of 5.
Use it as a near line back up solution and sleep well.
What does this mean? ALL of us either have, or will have lots of old hard drives we end up with as our programmes bloat and we replace our main drives with bigger units. What to do with the old ones? Buy lots of small cases and put them in...or get an old PC case and set it up as a server?
No, get a drobo and RECYCLE them that way.
Then use something like synctoy or some other synchronising software to COPY, NOT MOVE, your movies, music, photos and other essentials onto this small, elegant looking unit.
You now have a back up of the data on your hard drive, and it is all sitting on a RAID-like device...giving you extra reasons to sleep soundly.
The alternative to this is either tape, a server, or LOTS of DVDs. The smart choice is the Drobo.
Would I trust moving all critical data to this unit and not having a back up? NO! BUT I don't trust the RAIDs on my servers either. I use tapes or hard drive back up solutions on those.
My USB unit is nearly 2 years old I think....and no problems yet. Just use it as an expandable back up solution and you have a fantastic product.
"Don't Do It" Plug and play, no way. Just purchased one of these and so far I am nothing but sorry. There is more under the hood than the manufacturer would have you believe so be prepared for a merry chase when you try to set one of these up. Your machine will freeze, the drives will not be recognized by the Drobo Dashboard and you will find that the manual is woefully inadequate for the task. Setting up this unit with three drives consumed an entire evening. Troubleshooting the thing to restore function(?) ate up most of the next evening as well. Buyer beware. UPDATE: After a week with this thing, I have stopped expecting it to work. Now I am happy if my computer and network are functional. If my Mac goes to sleep, this thing hangs the OS when it is awakened. Relaunching the Finder in OS X does not resolve the problem - the only solution is a hard reboot (a common occurrence in my studio since Drobo arrived). The manual and online support do not address these issues. What an expensive headache.
"Drobo does exactly what I expected" Hello,
I have had the Drobo now for a few months and it works flawlessly. No problems at all.
Some comments on other reviews:
1. I do not understand why people are surprised that with i.e a 4TB format you only have 2.7 TB available date. If one cares to read the product description "before" you buy the unit one would realize that the rest is used for data protection. That is actually the reason why I want to have a Drobo in the first place or???
2. Many people have a wrong defintion of a backup. If you do not have a file at least 3 times on different storage media you do not have a backup. Some people go even further. If your house burns down or a burglar steals your Drobo - are you covered or not. if your answer is no -you do not have a backup, it is that simple. If your Drobo fails - yes it can happen - are you covered or not. Again, if your answer is no - you do not have a backup.
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"Good solution for the price", Even with Firewire800 performance is not comparable to an enterprise level RAID solution however for the price it's a decent solution for small business. The fact that it's easily expandable is nice; you don't need to be technical to use or install the Drobo.
Unfortunately as of Dec 31, 2008 the Drobo DOES NOT SUPPORT DRIVES LARGER THAN 1TB so despite the marketing claims it's maximum capacity is currently 3TB of usable storage (4 x 1TB - 1TB parity = 3TB usable). This is the configuration I use.
If you're looking to run ultra-fast network backups disk-to-disk over a network, well, Drobo is not for you even with Firewire800 it's painfully slow compared to our fileserver which internally supports two 1.5TB SATA drives. Backing up to a Drobo can take 3-4x longer than backing up to an internal drive because of the bus speed.
Still it's usable as a data drive and a great solution for small business where performance is not an issue.
Drobo's main selling point is quick and easy expandability; however in today's market 1.5TB drives are approaching the $100-120 pricepoint; and Drobo still isn't compatible with anything larger than 1TB. Hopefully a future firmware update will correct the problem. In the meantime, it's significantly cheaper to drop in a few 1.5TB SATA drives in RAID5 configuration into a workstation than spend nearly a thousand dollars on a Drobo and populating it with four drives.
My only other complaint is that the Droboshare networking feature is a seperate product. Come on! For $400 it should be included FREE!!
"Do Not Buy a Drobo! Save your money!", Do not buy a Drobo it costs too much for what it actually does! Drobo is great in concept as a device that reliably stores your important data and doubles as fast raid storage but it does none of that. I purchased this product as my main backup and raid storage for my MacBookPro and to replace 4 USB external drives that was starting to get unruly to manage. I purchased the Drobo and installed 4x1TB drives. I now I regret I purchased a Drobo so please consider alternatives.
First, I was under the impression I would get 3 TB's of storage but instead got only 2 TB's of storage instead. Apparently Drobo is not exactly plug and play, I have to do something to have Drobo allow me to access the extra TB. I gave up and right now I'm too scared to try to gain access to rest of my storage because Drobo is very finicky.
Second, Drobo goes dead and freezes every now and then. Which makes me question how reliably and securely Drobo is keeping my data. When I call Drobo support all they tell me to do is power off and reboot. Their suggestion works but tell me how comfortable you feel if your main storage is flashing red lights and appears dead?
Finally, Drobo is very very slow. I'm getting transfer rates of about 10 megs/sec over usb or firewire. If I want to transfer large amounts of data I do it before I go to sleep and hope it is done by morning. I am speculating that the raid calculation is slowing things down.
Thus, I am again using my old USB drives to back up the Drobo because I am concerned about Drobo's reliability. If I knew what I know now, I would have just gotten an external drive enclosure that takes 2 drives and allows my mac to use the 2 drives as one large drive instead of getting a Drobo. This would have been cheaper and probably more reliable then my current situation.
Also Drobo is loud so keep it under your desk.
"Great Product - But becareful about Firmeware Updates", First off, I have the 1st Generation Drobo for over a year now and it is working perfectly.
I am a professional program developer, so I use the Drobo as my primary data warehouse facility because it is safe and works as advertized. The data I store on my Drobo is very critical for my work.
I am recommending this device to a friend who is a professional cinematographer. I went on Amazon to see what problems other users had with the Drobo and surprise to see such a low consumer rating for the Drobo.
After reading all the negative rating on Amazon, I have come to the conclusion that people like to gamble with their data by apply unproven Firmware updates. If you read all the negative user reviews, you will find out that everyone loved their Drobo until they applied a bad Firmware update. Wow, how blindly dumb can you be. No one is perfect, and never update any firmware without reading if it works or not, or even if you need it. Especially on a critical hardware device that keeps precious data.
As a general rule, I never apply firmware updates until I have a problem with the device. If you are interested in apply firmware updates for the Drobo, wait at least 2-3 weeks and check reviews sites to see if there are any problems with the firmware update you want to apply. Also check if you need the firmware update before applying it. Don't risk it if you don't really need the new firmware update.
The other dumb thing I read is that people don't trust their Drobo after a bad firmware update. Hopefully they realized that they were dumb enough to be beta testers for the first round of firmware updates that didn't work.
For the people who love their Drobo, keep in mind the old adage "If it an't broke, don't fix it!"
"Working perfectly, a total delight", I wasn't sure what we were in for when my husband said we had to have a Drobo, but now that we've had it for a couple of months, I love it. I'll let my husband write a technical review, here's a non-techie's perspective:
Drobo is a hard disk that's not in your computer, but connected to the network. Ours is in our office, which is an unused room since we all got laptops. My daughter and I use Macs, while my husband uses two PCs. We all share files using Drobo.
This has been really convenient. We can now all share one photo library and one music library. We created some big photo projects for Christmas, and easily transferred them between computers using the Drobo (they were too large for email). My husband has started downloading movies straight to Drobo, then playing them on our big TV in the family room.
We originally filled the Drobo with two smaller hard disks. As we ran out of room, we bought a large disk and added it. Now I understand their promise that Drobo never runs out of room, and never looses data. Maybe we were behind the times, but we really like having this network disk.
I'm giving it five stars because it just works, unlike some of the other gadgets my husband has bought.
"Happy at first, then complete data loss, but got things recovered. Seems to be working now",
Having had a couple of external USB/IDE drives go down on me over the last couple of years, losing everything, I wanted something more fault-tolerant. This was it. I bought the USB2+Firewire800 version ( not realising that firewire 800 sockets were of course incompatible with my machines firewire-400 ones, unlike USB1/2 - my bad ), but even on USB2 connection it's fast enough for me. Ok, I wouldn't try playing one movie while copying another one back to the device over USB2 and expect perfect performance, but on any single task it's fine. The unit is extremely quiet, making much less noise than the laptop I've got it plugged into. I fitted 3x 1TB Western Digital 'GreenPower' drives into mine, which are also quiet, and they never get hot ( unlike my previous external IDE/USB drive enclosures ). I've yet to see a rebuild time though, since it's taking me a while to even fill the thing, and I've been feeding data DVDs into it for a month, starting a new one each morning before going off to work, then doing another few in the evening.
The only thing I'd *really* like to see on the unit is an external hard-lock switch that'd make the thing read-only, then I could take it round to someone else's house to let them get at some data without worrying about whether their machine has a virus that could write something to it.
BUT..... 6 weeks after buying the unit I came to use it, pressed F5 to refresh the explorer pane on a subdir within it, then it showed empty. The whole drive had lost every file except the top root level dirs. Their dashboard tool showed 458GB used, but a "DIR *.* /s" showed every file was missing ( over 26,000 files gone ). I had to wait until the next day before their support line was open, but in the end I got talked through a firmware update ( first time I tried it wouldn't apply, said the device was in use and couldn't be written to ). Turns out the culprit is the 1.2.4 firmware. UPGRADE IMMEDIATELY IF YOU'RE STILL USING 1.2.4. Once I'd upgraded to 1.3.0 all my files came back and the drive CHKDSK'd ok. So, I haven't lost anything and it's all fine, but the fact that they could even release a (admittedly short lived ) firmware version like that is scary. I've gone from having total faith in this unit to now treating it as just another version of burning seperate backup disks. It's currently working flawlessly, but that experience severely killed my confidence, hence 3 stars instead of 5. I guess if I bought it new right now and it came with the 1.3.0 firmware I'd think it was perfect, but experience has soured it a little. Overall I'm still glad I have it though, but the QA there needs closer supervision IMO.
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"The Truth about Drobo", I'm posting this to help all the folks who have suffered data loss with the Drobo and posted one star reviews and all the happy customers who have posted four and five star reviews because they haven't had a failure yet. I don't own a Drobo, and am neutral about it. But all the controversy is due to a huge misunderstanding that people have about the Drobo. This misunderstanding is encouraged by Drobo marketing, so they are at least guilty of omission if not misrepresentation.
No matter how you look at it, Drobo is RAID. It's neatly packaged and easy to use, and may be better than other low cost RAID systems, but it's still a RAID-type system, and RAID IS NOT BACKUP.
The goal of a RAID system is increased performance and/or fault tolerance in the case of single drive failure. Drobo seems to do this but it is wrong to equate the ability to survive the failure of a single hard drive with a backup and recovery strategy.
If you want an enduring archive of all your work and assets (corporate email, FCP projects or iTunes/iPhotos databases) you need to implement a backup system that will ensure that the data is not lost for any reason. A RAID (or a Drobo) can't do this because it isn't supposed to. RAID-type systems improve reliability by being fault tolerant to drive failure over a period measured in hours. But they don't survive the failure of two drives at once (although RAID 6 can), and they don't survive the failure of the control unit itself. The poor users who suffered catastrophic data loss when the Drobo died, deserve our sympathy but they overlooked the Single Point of Failure in the Drobo, or any unit like it.
If you want to ensure your 700GB of data are secure against sudden failure, there are several ways to do it. Assume you have this 700GB of data on a 1TB drive. How do you secure it? 1. Buy a Drobo with four 250GB drives and you may be better off than storing it all on just one 1TB FW800 drive. But if the Drobo itself smokes, you lose just as completely as if one drive died. Remember the Drobo has only one power supply and one controller. This is what happened to the Amazon customers reporting failures. 2. Buy a second 1TB FW800 drive and use Apple Time Machine (if you have a Mac) to keep a backup. You will be able to recover all files with a granularity of one hour. If your main disk fails, you have the TM backup. If the TM backup drive fails, you still have the data on the primary drive. 3. Buy a second 1TB FW800 drive and make a duplicate of the primary every day or week, depending on how long a span of data loss you can risk. This works with or without Apple Time Machine. You can then buy an additional 1TB drive, duplicate your data onto it and store it in an offsite location.
First step in securing data: put your computer on a UPS. Next: run some backup application to an external drive. Better: run the backup drive(s) off a second UPS. Best: store an archive or snapshot of your system remotely.
Only a backup strategy can secure data against loss. Only tested backups are dependable.
"Lots of trouble to get working, and giving up", I'm using it with my Vista Home Premium PC. I formatted a 4TB partition just to be future proof.
Initially I was using USB2. After installing Drobo Desktop, every time I open/close the Desktop, I get a windows registry permission error. I had to click on Continue to make it work, or Quit (3 times) to close it, so I can power off my computer.
The 1st time I copied files to it, I lost a few files and directories, they show up corrupted to Windows, I can not access or delete them. Running chkdsk shows error on the drive. The only thing I can think of is that I only had 750GB and 1TB drives in, so after I copied everything the drive was filled up, the 750GB drive is showing yellow, saying I need a larger drive. However, after I added another 1TB drive, those corrupted files and directories were still inaccessible.
I then reformatted it, and recopied everything. And this time everything took, chkdsk showed the drive to be fine. I can power on/off the PC and doesn't seem to cause any problem for the Drobo. It just shuts off when the PC is off, and comes back on when the PC is on again. The manual say to use the Drobo Desktop to shut it down, but it seems to handle power on/off fine as long as the disk are healthy (green lights).
A few days later I changed over to Firewire 800 using a Belkin 3-port Firewire 800 card that I just got. The card had a little problem picking up the Drobo the 1st time, I had to power cycle the Drobo a couple of time then it picked it up. All files are still accessible. I'm getting about 23 MB/S writes and 30 MB/s writes.
I finally fixed the registry error by using regedit, and fixing the permission of the Drobo registry key. Not sure how that got screwed up. Or maybe I should have it running using Admin account instead of my account. I wonder if the Drobo Desktop installer should have handled this better.
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After using it for a few weeks, I ran into problems with it again. One, when it filled up and I tried to add a 3rd drive (2 x 1TB drives in already), the 3rd bay did not want to recognize a new hard drive, I tried it a few times, and eventually it took, no idea why.
A couple of times the Drobo drive would disappear from my Vista machine. I had to power cycle the Drobo for it to come back (after putting in standby). Not sure why either, my previous USB external drives have never disappeared, although one Firewire 400 and eSATA external drive did disappear from windows. So this could be a Firewire+Vista issue too.
Each time after power cycling the Drobo, windows Vista decided to do a chkdsk on it. The last time this happened, Vista found error in the Drobo, and a ton of files are missing now on the Drobo. Vista now is running a chkdsk on startup on the Drobo, and try to recover files. It's stuck on the 1st file it's trying to recover for a whole day now, it's not working. I had formatted it to 4GB, not sure if this contributed to the problem.
Overall, the biggest gripe for me is the drive disappearing, and files getting corrupted or go missing on the Drobo. I have no idea if it's the Drobo's problem, or Vista, or connection through Firewire 800, or formatting to 4GB. In any case, getting it to work and keep it working has proven to be too much headache. I'm giving up. My final score for it would be 1 star.
"I wish I've got it before", This product really do what it is supposed to do and more! in comparison with the Western Digital MyBook world editionWestern Digital WDG2NC20000N My Book World Edition II 2 TB Ethernet External Hard Drive and the Buffalo TeraStation it is so much faster when attached to the DroboShareDroboshare, Network Attached Companion for Drobo as a network storage, really easy to setup and install takes a small space and had almost no notable noise and the fan really emits heat and the Drobo Dashboard software is really very easy and requires no routing or configurations, a really must have product.
"Drobo Goodtimes So Far..", Got the Drobo FW800 a few weeks ago and so far smooth sailing. I love the convenience of slipping in the raw OEM hard drives and being up and running in no time. As a full time editor the Drobo has proven (so far) to be very reliable and much faster than the external lacie FW800 drives I was using before that would lag when opening folders. The redundancy is peace of mind and that is worth the $500 alone. As far as custom service and support is concerned I have heard some horror stories and that is definitely something to consider---I hate bad customer service! Hopefully I won't need them, but if I do I will update this review. Hoping for an eSata Drobo in 2009...
"Buyer Be Warned!", I bought this 3 weeks ago, I have loaded 1.8 Teravbytes of data 3 times. The unit keeps shutting itself off and won't let me load anything else on it. Support has done nothing to help yet. I will update if status changes. BE WARNED.
1st Update: It has been 5 days and three phone calls to support since the third crash and I still have had no one call me back and help. If I don't hear from them by tomorrow, I'm returning the unit to Amazon.
2nd Update: Finally after another week I received a call back from tech support. They called to tell me they were sending me a new unit and a new power supply. They thought that one possible reason for my problem was that my four Hitachi drives were drawing more power than the power supply could handle. They have upgraded their power supply and were sending me a new one. Kind of makes you wonder how many people with partially used systems will crash when they add drives. The replacements came about 4 days later and everything seems to be working fine. The power supply, by the way, was identical to the one I had. All told from the time my Drobo arrived until it was up and running was almost a month and I spent countless hours on it. I purchased my drives separately from the Drobo so once opened I could not return them otherwise when all the problems started I would have returned the unit in a minute. If you do decide to buy this you may want to seriously consider buying a model with drives already installed so if you have the same problem you can return it to Amazon. I did not buy this as a "backup" scheme. I maintain backups of everything and did not loose any data. I did however loose many many valuable hours making it work. If you are fortunate enough to get a unit that works out of the box congratulations but if not be aware that their customer service department is seriously understaffed (which is usually an indication of financial trouble) and it will take a very long time to resolve your problem. My advice to Drobo is to spend less money on marketing (which they do very well) and spend it taking care of your customers instead. If I knew then what I know now I would not have bought this unit.
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