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"No real Achilles' Heel"
Based on Homer's Illiad, there is an ironic connection to how this movie was received. Some may have been wary of another big-budget Hollywood production, and thought of the classic proverb, "beware those who would bring false gifts." The concern was unwarranted, as this movie is stunning in every way from beginning to end, and PACKED with major players from the ultimate battle movies. Warriors from 300, The Lord of the Rings, and Braveheart all do battle in one movie!

Agamemnon (Brian Cox - who was awesome in Braveheart as Argyle Wallace and showed enough range to be hilarious as Captain O'Hagan in Super Troopers) is a power hungry king who has challenged enough other kings to control most of Greece. The only land that stands in his way of controlling the Aegean is Troy, ruled by pacifist-leaning Priam (Peter O'Toole). Boromir from LOTR (Sean Bean) - plays Odysseus, a sycophant king to the now ruler of kings, Agamemnon. Odysseus just happens to be a mentor and friend to the greatest warrior ever, Achilles (Pitt). Fighting alongside Achilles is his second-in-command, Eudorus (Vincent Regan). You will recognize him as the guy who was awesome as Leonidas's captain in 300.

As peace is being worked out between Agamemnon's Greek forces and the emerging armies of Troy, two Trojan princes are treated as guests by Agamemnon: Prince Hector (Eric Bana) is his land's greatest warrior; and Prince Paris (Orlando Bloom aka Legolas from LOTR) is his younger, "Don Juan" brother. When they leave they have an extra passenger, Helen (Diane Kruger) - who is now "of Troy" but was once "of Sparta" - and the peace being discussed is destroyed because she just happens to be married to King Menelaus (Brendan Gleeson - Hamish Campbell from Braveheart), Agamemnon's brother. Now disgraced, Menelaus gives Agamemnon the reason he needed for war with Troy, a previously unbreached city thought undefeatable. And, just for good measure, the rugged Campbell father from Braveheart plays Glaucus (James Cosmo), a top soldier in the Trojan Army.

If all this is confusing, don't worry; the movie is still great. Enjoy the epic war scenes similar to the movies from which they have borrowed cast members, tragically snicker at the fact that you know what the "Trojan Horse" is all about (and that the city of Troy falls to such a ridiculous trick), and revel in a classic sword battle between Achilles and Hector. Actually, try not to enjoy one battle more than others, because this movie is saturated with great action like Achilles' complete domination of the monstrous Thessalian warrior Boagrius (Nathan Jones aka Petr from The Condemned).

From beginning to end this movie is superb. The lighting, acting, scenery, musical score, costume design and casting all reflect impressively on the entire movie's efforts. I didn't care to go too much into the historical aspect of the movie, but from what I can tell all the major details fairly consistent with the truth. This is right up there with 300 and Braveheart, and is a can't miss action flick.

"Should have theatrical Version!"
Blu-ray discs can fit so much, yet this only has the director's cut, there is a reason why a group of people told the director that these scenes were going to be taken out and these were going to stay. The directors cut just about ruins the whole movie. Even the fight scenes, he shows them from different angle's and there is no more poetry to them. I would give this a 1 star but the original versions is one of my favorite movies, so i have to give troy 3 stars. if i were you, i'd wait until a blu-ray with both versions comes out.

"Can someone show me where this is titled The Iliad and not Troy?"
This is mainly a reply to all the 1 star reviews which don't take anything into account other than the inaccuracy in how this relates to The Iliad. I'm sorry that they might have raped your image from The Iliad, but this isn't a movie called The Iliad, it's called Troy. In the Iliad the siege took 9 years, does anyone actually expect something like that ever to be put to film? There is so much that would not translate well to film, I don't have a problem with other character changes they made.

Get real, this is a 'fun' movie. It wasn't made to piss you off, giving something a 1 star review based soley on how it was not completely accurate to something is ridiculous. Pull up $300 million of your own money and make it how it how it was in The Iliad and see you recoup 1% of your production cost.

"Epic and Awesome"
A bunch of glorious battle scenes and a good story. The diector's cut is amazing.

"Peterson Cannot Grasp Homer"
Wolfgang Peterson's film based on Homer's Iliad is both tremendous and horribly skewed. Everyone knows the story of the Trojan Horse so it does not bear repeating, but I will outline what I think Peterson did right and what was revolting.

The screenplay, action, and sets are largely fantastic. Troy is an epic ancient metropolis and looking at it gives the viewer a sense of awe. Watching Achilles attack the Trojan beach is the greatest battle scene in the movie.

Likewise the casting and characters are largely wonderful. Whenever I reread the Iliad, Achilles will always be Brad Pitt, the cocky, proud, and deadly American. Eric Bana will always play Hector, Peter O'Toole Priam, and best of all, Sean Bean for Odysseus. These actors did wonderful jobs of portraying these epic characters and it felt like Homer when I saw them onscreen.

Peterson does a large bit of rewriting in this film, some of it understandable and some of it foul. I can see eliminating the physical presence of the gods, for any portrayal of Zeus or Athena would seem cliche and trite. But I cannot forgive the recasting of Agamemnon and Menelaus as despicable, megalomaniac brutes. Both these kings were noble and proud, and Peterson spits on both of them.

One of the foremost pleasures in reading the Iliad is recognizing that there is no stereotypical villain. Making Troy seem the pinnacle of ancient civilization and the Greeks shabby, grungy and greedy brutes does not fly well with me. Hector was indeed honorable (and I think the only virtuous character in the Iliad), but so were Menelaus and Agamemnon. Making the Greeks the enemy is simplistic and vapid, though perhaps the modern American will enjoy it - rooting for a tragic, virtuous hero (Hector and his city) always feels good, especially when you really hate the enemy (Menalaus and Agamemnon). Homer may have been a Trojan sympathizer (I don't think he was), but he was fair to Troy and to the Achaians. Peterson gets Hector's honor and courage right, and everything about Greek leadership wrong.

The largest problem Troy has is trying to retell a 40,000 line poem in two hours. Peterson is forced to cut book after book of Homer in his attempt to adapt it to the screen, but goes awry because of the drastic retelling. Everything seems rushed - ten years of war is condensed to two weeks of battle. Episodes such as Agamemnon's feud are terribly rushed and sparing Paris will make no one happy.

I wish that in Troy we saw less Peterson and more Homer. Let the bard speak for himself, let the real battle of Troy tell itself. What could have been a truly electrifying film because of the tremendous abilities of Bana, Bean, Pitt, and O'Toole is disappointing and unsatisfying. Its only boon is that it may encourage people to read Homer and read the tragedy of Achilles and Hector.

 

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"Troy", I had written earlier because I had only gotten 1 part of a 2 part DVD. But then Sonic read my review, contacted me and sent the second part. So I raised them to 4 stars. Thank you. Pam Mendoza

"educational standpoint", As a high-school teacher for English foundations, I try my best to expose my students to the literature their peers in regular English classes receive. I must utilize movies as a visual aide supplement to help them connect with the characters, setting, dialogue... I strongly recommend using this dvd to support your curriculum to teach on all levels of student learning (auditory, kinesthetic, visual). However, for this particular movie, I had to fast forward the unneccesary sex scenes with Brad Pitt that were a bit much for my students.

""The Iliad" is not the only version of the Trojan War!", Many reviewers have complained that the movie "Troy" is not completely true to the Iliad in portraying the characters and events of the Trojan War. This is unfair. Even in ancient times, the Iliad was not the only version of the Trojan War stories, and the Iliad which has come down to us may not be the only version that was performed. The Iliad only tells what happened in the space of 50 days in the 9th year of the war, although it alludes in passing to events that happened before and after these 50 days. Like the whole Camelot cycle which developed through the Dark and Middle Ages, the Trojan War cycle picked up and incorporated the best (and contradictory) legends over a millennium from Greece and Asia Minor. Modern historical fiction has been even more imaginative in retelling the stories. Further, it has been traditional for a long time not to portray Homer's literary gods in other tellings of the War. "Troy" does NOT forget the gods - the presence of the gods is always there in the way the humans (especially Priam, Briseis, and Achilles) refer to their existence.

The movie "Troy" looks at what might have been the historical Bronze Age kernel for the legends and does a wonderful, powerful job of doing so. It specifically says "INSPIRED by the Iliad". If you want to see a movie which hews closer to the plot line of the Iliad, see instead the 1962 sword and sandals movie "Fury of Achilles". I think Peterson's is a monumental achievement, and I do not tire of watching this movie (I have not seen the director's cut yet).

The movie is very good at exploring the essence of the characters which have come down to us and the Greek Dark Ages warrior code portrayed in the Iliad. We see in Achilles' quest for glory and Odysseus' narration the attempt to find in military glory and song a meaning for our mortality as opposed to the immortality of the gods. We see how the society is too small for the great warrior to fit into. We see in Hector's character of the reluctant warrior the distinction made between the two warrior codes of the aggressive quest for glory and the defensive warrior who defends a civilized city. The movie's Priam is like that in the Iliad - he relies on a religious fatalism to avoid having to make difficult decisions. Paris is correctly portrayed as a coward and seducer, so you can't blame Orlando Bloom for his portrayal of Paris.

On the whole the acting is quite good. I am not a Brad Pitt fan, but with the possible exception of Daniel Craig, I do not see who else would have had the star power, beauty, and grace to BE Achilles. Eric Bana was perfect as Hector - valiant but overmatched (and emblematic of the Trojans as a whole), with his expressive, soft, anguished eyes, and he and Andromache (Saffron Burrows) had a true chemistry which intensified the sad fate of this loving couple.

If I have one major criticsm, it is that the fates of certain characters, which are set in the canon of Western literature, were too radically different. I speak of Agammemnon and Menelaus. The ending was too conventional, in that the bad guys (which Menelaus was not, really) got bad ends at Troy. Agammemnon should have returned to Mycenae - there is a whole lot of Greek literature based on that. We should have had a real sense of the absolute loss and waste of the destruction of Troy, without the catharsis of Agammemnon's death.

I still highly recommend this movie, and I especially like James Horner's musical score, which particularly packed a visceral punch in the invasion of the Trojan beach.

"Great Acting - Great Scenes - Great Dialogue", I can't think of anything they could have done to improve this
movie. Troy is not one of my favorite stories, so this movie
will never be on my top 10 list, but I can't think of another
"swords and sandals" movie that comes close.

"directors cut RUINED the troy experience for me!!!", My wife had never seen this movie before so i was excited to show it to her for the first time on blue ray. I bought the directors cut version thinking it would be even better then the original. I couldnt be more wrong!!! The scenes that were cut should have stayed cut!! I was actually getting angry everytime there was a B.S. scene added. I have seen this movie in original form multiple times so i knew which scenes were added and every single one of them were pointless. people say that it gives it more depth. WRONG! it just makes the movie longer. turns an action movie into a long drawn out movie with way to much dialogue. I would say its 90% talking and 10% action. what they should have done was make the fighting scenes longer (esp. the hector and achilles fight.) and keep the rest of the film the way it was. i ended up just turning it off because i was just so angry that one of my favorite movies was ruined. DO NOT BUY DIRECTORS CUT. If you still want it, you can buy mine...



 
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"Homer disappears for this spectacle", "Troy" is an example of not taking your subject seriously. Homer's twin epics, "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey" are sprawling, have lots of scenes, meander, and are not necessarily great movies in the making. But Homer's epics could be mined for the right material to make a good movie. But this isn't it.

First, the acting is not always so hot. Paris comes across as such a wimp that it is rather hard to take. Eric Bana creates a character who seems to recognize the tragedy that is occurring, but--compared with a wonderfully sculpted Brad Pitt--he doesn't look like he could hold his own with him in combat, which diminishes the impact of their inevitable one on one battle. Brad Pitt, as Achilles, seems pretty shallow, although he looks great. Peter O'Toole, playing Trojan King Priam, is not a terribly compelling figure.

Second, Homer (not Homer Simpson! Homer, the poet who created "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey") disappears as the script goes bizarre. Menelaus and Ajax die as portrayed in this version? The same with Agamemnon? There's enough pizzazz in Homer's work not to have to resort to the butchery of his works for alterations that are unnecessary.

Third, for some pluses. This is gorgeously shot; the battles scenes are well played; the computer graphics work well and are not over obtrusive. The depiction is near spectacular. Even though it bears only a modest resemblance to Homer (for which, ultimately, I'm old-fashioned enough that I cannot forgive the perpetrators), it is all to the good that people ignorant of his work will at least have some faint knowledge of it by watching this. Maybe a few more people might actually read his work after having viewed this flick. If so, this movie has made its own contribution.

I tend to rate products pretty positively, since I normally review things that I like. This movie I don't like so much. But, on the other hand, if you want to see a buff Brad Pitt, lots of spectacle, fine special effects, even if the movie greatly ignores Homer, then you'll probably enjoy this. So, on a split vote, I'll go with a 3.


"TROY", I love Brad Pitt as an actor. This movie on blu ray is one of the best I've seen. Clear & crisp picture and great sound. I didn't like the movie that much. It's over three hours long and the concept of going to war for one woman, it's a movie I cannot watch more than once. If you're a big Pitt fan, get it, if not, just skip it, you're not missing much.

"Pitt Rules", Pitt rules. He makes every movie his own. You can't deny his power, or his intimate relationship with the camera.

The battle scenes are tight and dramatic. The giant slain is my favorite scene. That, and when our hero is felled.

"Petersen's majestic Troy", I previously owned the HD DVD copy of this epic but traded it when I heard that there would be a Directors Cut which would be an improvement on the previous one as far as the video. If you're a fan of this film as I was, then I would recommend this epic whole-heartedly. Some of the dialogue is a little too contemporary for a film of this type and Diane Kruger seems somewhat wooded as Helen but a great beauty nevertheless but Pitt and Eric Bana do excel as the rivals in the war and they're supported by a fine cast of veteran actors such as Brian Cox & the great Peter O'Toole. This film doesn't quite fall in the classic status like "Gladiator" but nevertheless Wolfgang Petersen has delivered an enjoyable, entertaining epic with awesome battle scenes that DeMille would be proud of. Definitely a must if you have a HDTV that is 50" or more!!

"GREAT MOVIE!!", I believe this is one of Brad Pitt's best movies. I though Orlando Bloom was beautiful but a real wimp! Eric Bana was Great too! I know you will love this movie!

 
 
 

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