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Day of Defeat: Source
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Why I buy this one ?
- Completely updated maps to take full advantage of the Source engine
- Integrated physics simulation for realistic gravity, friction, and bouyancy
- Greater detail in textures, models, and surfaces for added realism
- Improved lighting, shadows, and reflections through bump mapping, specular and HDR lighting
- Completely redesigned user interface
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"A solid online experience for those who still love WWII.", There are tons of people who love playing shooters online. The amount of people who are still in love with WWII themed shooters however, is dwindling. So you really have three choices when choosing which WWII themed shooter to play online. You can play Battlefield 1942 which is becoming extremely dated, you can play the unbalanced and camper heavy Call of Duty 2, or you can play Day of Defeat: Source.
The graphics aren't going to really impress anybody, that part is obvious. However, it still isn't a bad looking game either, and it can run smoothly on just about any computer. The art style is pretty typical of a WWII shooter, not necessarily a bad thing, it just won't stand out from the pack.
The soundtrack is pretty good, if not a little bit limited. There isn't really any voice acting, nor is there a need for any as there is no storyline or single player campaign to speak of. The sound effects of the funs and explosions are spot on though. One thing I find cool is that you can find your way to a combat situation just by listening to the sounds of gunfire, the sound is really that accurate and immersing.
The combat is essentially Counter-Strike with a twist. The use of cover is slightly more encouraged, partly due to the completely different set of weapons. They're your typical WWII weapons. They're all pretty well balanced and have their share of pros and cons. Things are fast paced, and the map design is top notch. The only real game-play complaint I have is that along with encouraging more use of cover, it also encourages some people to camp in the process. Not that big of a deal though.
A great addition to anyone's PC game collection as long as you have Steam. Most computers should be able to run it smoothly on at least low settings, my runs it on max with no problems. Definitely one of the better choices if you're looking for a WWII themed online shooter to eat up your time.
"good...but could have been better", NOTE(July 18,2008):do to a recent update and some practice I have had on DOD:S i will try to edit this reveiw when I get the chance(for some positive stuff has happened to DOD:S)
I really enjoyed this game, however it had some probloms:
Pros: 1.Its the best multi-player WWII game i've seen-in short it's way better that call of duty 2 mult-player mode. 2.realism-the realism can be turned buth ways, if your one of those gamers who likes to play their games with the true super long reloading and the machine gun with the huge backfire and the no realoading till you've used all your ammo on the rifle, then it could be a pro to you.(but it defeinatly is a con for me) 3.the seanrey and water are nice.
...and heres the cons: cons: 1.it takes a long time to load.(if you have a pc that ran hl2 you will run this with about the same speed as my pc ran it.) 2.the game gave you this nervis feeling that you don't get with counter strike:source or other multi-player games thus making the mormal player suck like hell.(don't block this HELL IS NOT A CUSS WORD!) 3.most of the maps felt pointless and the goal of most of them were to walk over to a flag or a tank with a flag and stand there till the area is "captured" though there are a two maps that I know of that have to do with blowing up a tank or some other machine. 4.the servers are slowly dying. 5.the people you play as look stupid(if you play it you'll know what I mean)
in short if you love WWII you'll be a fan of this game. But of you want a game with capture points play team fortress 2. If you want a game were you plant exploseves then play counter strike: source
"Excellent squad combat", I have been a long time DoD 1 fan and never got the chance to buy the Source version until recently. The things I like about this new version is that the gameplay still feels right and the art style is improved. The only things I don't like is the player's footfall audio is not silent when walking slowly and some of the maps feel too small or reorganized from their originals. However, for its easy to learn gameplay and nice price, DoD Source is totally worth it.
p.s. - Donner is my favorite map - feels like playing in a Band of Brothers episode.
"BIG disappointment...read on for Why", My favorite game use to be Day of Defeat (DOD), that is, the old DOD 1.3 ie the one before source. It was the best only game ever. The graphics weren't spectacular, but decent. The reason I liked that game was for it's maps, gameplay, and sound. I was an expert with rifles. I never had kills less than four times my deaths. I was good at aiming/reacting/shooting. I had serious SKILLS. So....they announce the release of DOD:source. Better graphics, better sound. Of all the people in the world, I was the person who could wait the least to try the upgraded DOD:source. So, I bought the DOD:source. first 30 mins...ok i get it...i get what changes they ahve made. Let me tell you the good changes first. They have improved the graphics in DOD:source from it's predecessor SPECTACULARLY. I am sure you can read how good they are in others' comments. SOUND is awesome--gun sounds, ambient sounds. Maps look spectacular as well. LOts of detail in graphics, sound, and maps. Now...THE DISAPPOINTMENT: Gameplay. Why, Steam, Why? Did you really have to ruin my favorite game in the world by destroying the best gameplay ever created for a multiplayer game? The gameplay in the DOD:source sucks to say the least. Automatic guns have recoil like....like...crazy. It's like not one bullet reaches the target that you want it to reach. They all just...SPRAY. Automatic guns are useless beyond a distance of 5 metres. Rifles....my dear Rifles (RIP). My skills in rifling are useless in DOD:source. Allies rifle hardly ever kills in 1 shot, which was normal in DOD 1.3. I find it IMPOSSIBLE, after playing it for atleast 10-15 hours, to aim with rifles. Why? Because the game is so fast-paced. its a cartoon game! all the characters run so fast that it's impossible to aim. This game COULD HAVE been perfect, spectacularly the best of the century if they had kept the DOD 1.3 gameplay the same in DOD: source. My skills are useless in DOD:source, cuz DOD:source is based on Spray and pray (credit to whoever said it first in review). The reason I played the old DOD 1.3 instead of its competition CS--counterstrike was because of a different gameplay. The reason I will not be playing DOD:source is because it is disappointingly LIKE CS in its gameplay, only worse if any different.
"The "Source" suffix doesn't necessarily mean better", I've been playing Day of Defeat since it's original release SO many years ago. And since its release SO many years ago, I've been a fan. Remember the crappy little tanks on Cean that you get in and shoot a machine gun out the turret? I was there. Remember the "bleed" feature where when you were shot you had to bandage yourself? I was there. Remember when there was NO machine gun class? No British faction? I was totally there. This was truly a great game. Through countless updates and upgrades Day of Defeat grew into THE perfect online, squad-based, World War Two shooter.
And then they did THIS to it.
Now... it's not a BAD game. It's just not good.
The gameplay in Source is decidedly more fast paced than its predecessor. And this by itself is not a bad thing. The weapons in this version however seem to have taken a serious hit and when combined with the faster gameplay make the game rather frustrating, especially for players new to the series. They just feel sluggish and unresponsive. It's a lot more difficult to hit anything with the automatic weapons this time around (especially the StG44 which feels near worthless now) given that the recoil is much more severe and the bullet spread is much wider than the orginal DoD. And the rifles have lost much of their potency. Not only do they no longer kill in one shot, but given the faster pace of the gameplay, the obscene down time between shots on the German K98 is way more impacting on the riflemans effectiveness. This also leads to another aspect which effects the game. An unfortunate phenomenon that I call, the CounterStrike effect. In this Day of Defeat you find that actual teamwork is very rare. You all know those games (CounterStrike) where most of the time one or two people dominate and everyone else just runs around doing their own thing? Well, that is basically the name of the game here. Now on most servers, rather than the team which works together best wins, it's the team which simply has the best player. It's not EVERY server, just a lot of them. And it's rather dissapointing.
That is perhaps the biggest complaint against this game. There are other, probably trivial grievances as well. The number of maps is still rather small. Though there ARE user made maps out there, not many of them can compare to the quality of developer made maps. There will of course be updates which include more maps in the future, but at the moment that does not apply. And the absence of the British class kind of sucks as well. They were a nice addition to the original that changed up the gameplay from map to map a little, and surely they will be included in later patches. But as for now... eh :-/
There are of course good things about the game as well. One of those good aspects, are the games graphics. The models look a bit to polished and clean for a war game(you'd expect soldiers in world war two to look a bit more haggard and dirty, and they have a dumb hunch-back look to them in this version), but the enviroments and physics model are amazing. The Source engine can squeaze a lot of detail into the world and the physics make for some awsome effects during a fire fight. Grenades blow apart wodden barrels or furniture and send pieces of wood and scraps of metal flying, and it's cool to see your bullets rip a room apart. The sound in DoD: Source is equally amazing, and probably under-rated. Machine-gun fire and explosions echo through a level and if your on the other side of the map they genuinely sound distant. It's a very cool effect. Weapon fire and the shouts of your teammates all sound really nice and compliment the atmosphere of the game immensely.
All in all I have a hard time recommending this game. My prejudices given my history with the game aside, the original is still far far superior and I would suggest you buy it before this. Lots of people still play the original, and it's a real solid experience(given how long its been out, they've had time to make it perfect). The Source game has potential (as any game does really, through updates), but right now... It's just not worth your twenty bucks. If you absolutely need a modern World War Two shooter get Red Orchestra (The best online WW2 game out right now), or one of the Call of Dutys. You'd be better served then.
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"not that good - and screw you, steam!!!", this game is simply and solely an attempt to be call of duty. when will people realize that the COD series is the only truly good ww2 game series out there? this game can be a decent amount of fun, but it comes across as an under-funded counterstrike clone with different graphics. well, if i wanted to play CS, i'd play CS!! the weapons control isn't that great.
and to top it off, here's the WORST part of this game - i went on recently and all the servers had a bunch of "people" in them. you know what they were? if you guessed bots, you're wrong! they were FAKE PEOPLE. that's right, the morons running all the DOD servers put FAKE NAMES in their players list when the server is completely EMPTY so that people will go to their server! of course, then they see no one is truly in there and leave anyway, so it doesn't even work! is this the most idiotic thing you've ever heard or what??????? one last complaint - where does steam get off charging all this money for these mediocre games, and they don't even let you play a demo of them first? what the hell? i've never been pleased with a game bought on steam.
"Not too good.", This could be a good game if there was a way to play it other than online. Unfortunately, the description of the game doesn't tell you that that's the only way it works.
"Dont judge too quick... This game rocks!", Too be honest... I hated this game at first. I played the original Day of Defeat for about 4 years non stop and it quickly became the most exciting and addictive game i ever played. I heard a lot of bad things about DOD source when it came out and didnt immediately buy it. When I did, the physics were so different to the original DOD that I didnt play it much. Also, my computer needed a bit of upgrading to make it run smooth. After putting it off for monthes, i upgraded my computer and uninstalled the original DOD so that i could focus on DOD source. It was the best thing I ever did! This game kicks A$$! It is one of the most intense experiences you will find in a game. The graphics are incredible and the source engine physics are sweet. I still miss some of the little things from the origal DOD, and a lot of the maps! But overall DOD source outshines DOD in every way. Its even more addictive than the original! Just be patient...this game is a work in progress and it will only get better. New maps will come and new teams/weapons will be added. Buy this game now! I guarentee it will be the best $20 you ever spent!
Reasons why people "hate" this game.... 1. People fear change. Those who are extremely confortable with the original DOD dont want to come over to DOD soure and get slaughtered. There is a HUGE learning curve if you are used to the original! I would compare it to playing Resident Evil 4 after being a huge fan of the originals. Resident Evil 4 is totally different and takes a while to get used to but in the end is completely better than any previous RE game. Or take the Star Wars franchise. Some people love the origninals and not the new ones, not because chapters 1,2, and 3 are really bad but because they are different. In fact Revenge of the Sith IS the best one!
2. Your computer sux. This game is a bit of a powerhouse. But well worth any upgrades you need to make. Just check out the water reflection/textures for proof! Plus the scattering pieces from objects in the middle of the fire fights are rediculous!
3. Your Clan/teamates dont play DOD Source. I have noticed that a lot of regulars that i always played with wont switch over to DOD source because not all of their clan members or buddies can afford to upgrade to Source.
4. Not as many mods. Just be patient...this game is a work in progress and it will only get better. New maps will come and new teams/weapons will be added. The original DOD was the same way when it was released.
Buy this game now! I guarentee it will be the best $20 you ever spent!
"Great game with very little lacking", I am a huge fan of the original and can understand why some of the other reviews rip on this game, but it is still great. DOD:S has excellent graphics, quick and realistic gameplay, expanding and increasing game content, and it is a game that never gets old no matter how much you play it. It is probably the most team based online game I have played, you simply can't win all by yourself.
My favorite part of the game is how it doesn't take twenty hits to kill a guy and it is definitely not a "spray and pray" style of gameplay, it is all strategy. You learn that maps and build your reflexes and you can be great at this game. The only thing that bothered me was the removal of a couple classes from the previous game and some of the changes in the weapons there. I didn't like how the K98 didn't always get the one shot kill, or how from a long ways off you couldn't pick someone off with the thompson. In the end the game is better for these changes though, it adds to the realism. The people complaining about the lack of maps are also out of place. While there are only 6 standard maps out, more will come and there are a lot of custom maps out there already.
Overall this game is fast-paced, strategic, team-based, and realistic. The graphics are great and the game never gets old.
"Addictive and a bargain as well, good for old folks like me.", I'm a little ashamed at having to admit that I'm old in gaming years, well over thirty, so my reflexes are not what they used to be. Playing games like "Counter-Strike: Source" expose my degraded skills all too readily: I can see the enemy, I can predict where they pop up, and I can't seem to get my shots off quickly or accurately enough to save my life. So I usually spend much of a level watching as a dead spectator. Not fun.
"Day of Defeat: Source" offers people like me a better alternative. It relies more on strategy than CS:S because it's based solely on team-play and objectives. You have to capture five flags, and while it sounds easy, you have to keep them captured long enough to call it yours.
The result is that I can leverage my years of experience (and my years of gaming experience normally surpasses the ages of my fellow players). I can work in coordination with others to set up fire bases, provide cover, assault a position, and so forth, knowing that the objective is flag caps and not personal victory.
Granted, you will find games where personal glory is more important, and you will find games where cheats occur (spectators calling out positions to players, as one), but overall you'll likely find a good three hours of tactical and strategic play. It's easy to learn, you have enough variety of player class to attempt to master them all, and playing against people ensures you compete against the best possible opposition.
To the negative reviews, I would grant them their own experiences are valid, but I would tell readers to consider this: younger players have more time on their hands to master a game. Old folks with fulltime jobs just can't commit to 80 hours of study on a video game anymore, so while this game doesn't offer the fastest gameplay (Quake 4 apparently has that title), it does offer a load of fun. For the price, you can't lose.
-Fred
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