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"Reports could be improved"
When I loaded Visual Studio the SQL Server component did not load correctly - only the Configuration manager loaded - on reading the reports on the procedure I was informed that my computer was below the minimum hardware requirements, this despite me running a 2 GHz machine with 512 RAM and plenty of disc space.

A little bit more granularity might help me locate the problem.

"Worst Visual Studio ever Published"
If you are starting from scratch; this may work.

But if you have thousands of lines of C++ code that you'd like to port to the new runtime, forget about this crap.

This code has compiled in Visual Studio 2002 and 2003 with only minor adjustments. Upgrading to 2005 has been basically a brick wall.

I attempted the port. After a few dozen iterations, I started hitting problems with attributed ATL service classes that could not resolve base class references. Code that is executed in the compiled binary in the previous release; but that this new compiler reports as missing. And I still have 89 errors. Since I don't have the source, I cannot fix this with any kind of macro. Nice box you've painted me into Microsoft. The upgrade is not important enough for me to mess with this stuff. I have a deadline end of month.


"Almost enough to get the job done."
Hi all, I've been writing code for over 5 years now and work as a developer for a software company. I'm also MCAD Certified. We use VS.Net 2005 exclusively and the reviews that you will read below about this program sucking are not true. I believe the reason users may think this program sucks is because they don't know how to use it. It's just like anything else, if you don't know how to use the program you won't benefit from its features. Now one thing I will tell you is that when you want to create a Windows Service you WILL need the Professional version of VS.Net 2005 to do that. Other than that I have created atleast 25 web sites ranging from personal sites to enterprise e-commerce, numerous desktop apps that range from single managed apps to apps that use WIN32 API, ie old COM stuff, Class libraries, Server Controls and .Net Remoting objects. So unless you need to create Windows Services this is the package for you.

"Useful product, but still a challenge"
I primarily write in VB/VBA -- not at a really advanced level, mostly focused on data management -- and am trying to make the transition to asp.net. So my comments are directed along these lines.

The IDE itself is generally very good. Layout, menus, etc. are fine, intellisense is fantastic and the error messages are actually pretty useful.

That said, getting asp.net to function the way you want it to (if you're moving from VB) is still quite challenging and time consuming. Some examples -- if you add a database to your project, VS won't recognize it until you exit and restart; changing column widths on a grid view is a bit of a challenge (just google "Gridview column widths" and read away) -- mine wouldn't work until I shut VS down and relaunched; master pages are great, but incredibly finicky -- some of my pages appear with the designated breadcrumb, some don't, go figure; three tier data architecture is incredibly challenging b/c the ObjectDataSource is very picky -- after a few days of playing around with it, I abandoned a three tier set-up for a two tier one. Etc., etc.

MS is doing quite a bit to push people from the COM world into the .Net world and certainly VS 2005 is much more accessible than VS 2003. But when the language itself is still so buggy, the best IDE in the world only helps you to better focus your frustrations. My op is VS for asp.net still has a long ways to go before it becomes nearly as accessible as VB/VBA.

As a follow-up, some of the issues that I cited above are easily addressed by a better understanding of the IDE (i.e., fixing my unfamiliarity with the IDE). However, there are still numerous areas where the separate pieces of asp.net take an inordinate amount of time and effort to fit together properly (the object data source being the best/worst example I've hit). Six mos. of pretty regular use have only reinforced the views that I originally expressed -- very good IDE, an ambitious concept, but one that still needs a fair amount of work.

"Don't know what is wrong with these bad reviewers?!"
I guess the people who wrote all the bad reviews for this product aren't very accomplished visual programmers. One guy said he never even used Visual Studio 2003; what kind of modern programmer has never even tried the main development platform of pcs? What kind of serious programmer never even looks at the latest platform for years and years?? (Visual Studio 2003 has been around for years and was the best platform until 2005). I run an IT dept and VS 2005 will do just about anything any programmer can ask it to do, but many people give up and lash at things without even reading the instructions or knowledge base articles or taking any classes to get caught up on modern technology and methods. VS 2005 isn't perfect but it is the best Windows development platform since Microsoft started making windows. I've been waiting for years for some of the new features that finally came out in this release.

 

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- Support for Visual Basic, C#, C++, and J# languages
- "Drag and drop" user interface designers for virtually every type of application; Master Pages support for maintaining a consistent look and feel across Web applications
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"Excellent experience with this tool", Used this version for a 150,000 line code base of desktop applications. Very very happy with it. Of course, there are many "wish it did X" items, but it is overall I am very pleased. After SP1, almost never have IDE crashes or other non-user code problems.

Still wondering why anyone would buy the Pro edition vise this (Std) edition for $350 more..


"A Development Standard Tool", Any serious or amature developer should be required to use and know Microsoft Visual Studio Standard 2005. I know there are a lot of super-geeks out there who love to hate on Microsoft and prefer to stick to "real" or open source code that isn't dominated by the MS Juggernaught.

Those feelings aside- the reality of the world is that most companies use Microsoft software and server implementations in real world business, and Microsoft does provide the tools to get that work done. If you are at all interested in .NET, J#, C++, or ASP; this tool is the way to go. I was also happily surprised to learn that Visual Studio also can help code other documents like XHTML, XML, HTML, and CSS, which is really nice when you have to pay this much for the product.

Seriously though, if you are buying this for yourself, buy the Standard edition, let whoever you work for buy you the professional edition.

"Visual Studio 2005 Rocks", Awesome IDE. I appreciate using it daily. Beats using Xemacs in my real job, hands down.

"Decent Product, Steep Learning Curve", This product was good, but not great. It's a bit sluggish at times, even running with plenty of available resources (e.g. when it's the only thing running on a box with a gig of ram and a decent processor). It also has a fairly steep learning curve. Once you know how to do things it's great, but when you don't you stumble a lot. A lot of the features, while powerful, aren't very intuitive. My primary IDE before this was Eclipse, so I was already accustomed to another IDE that handles things differently a lot of the time. Some things MVS did better; some things Eclipse did better. In the end, as I've said before, it's a good product, but not great. A little rough around the edges. When it boils down to it if your development environment is MS, this is probably the product for you.



 
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"best VS yet...", I've been using the MS IDEs since back when it was still called "InterDev" - and I have to say this is the best one yet. Naturally there are some things that are not 100% intuitive to everyone. Not everyone thinks the same way, or develops the same way - so of course some things aren't going to make sense to people. Welcome to life...
However, after spending 5 minutes learning how to use it - one finds performing tasks that used to be difficult (or even impossible) in previous versions to be extremely simple. Want a strongly typed dataset? no problem. Want to build a website and only have to define 1 or 2 templates for the whole thing? no problem. Want to take advantage of caching, simply by adding a couple lines of code to the top of a page? yup - got that too.
Granted - some of the things that make VS2005 so great are more because of the features of .net2.0 - but this version of visual studio makes those features easy to use and understand.
Definately worth the money.

"Why'd you buy it?", After reading the reviews about thisd product and noting that I, a novice in Visual Basic 6.0, but quite confident in VBScript do not understand why someone with all the brains these guys have would buy a product just to complain about it.

So, there are problems. If any of you worked with COBOL, you'd think that Visual Studio and Visual Basic were a Godsend! COBOL is a dinosaur of the magnitude of a T-REX! This stuff is allot better than what us COBOL programmers had to put up with.

I'm not going to buy this product because I see allot of disgrunting from those who have. Of course, in the "old days", you found work arounds for the problems that COBOL caused. Maybe you can't do that with this stuff. Butm the way I figure it, once you bought, you live with it and find out ways around the problems.

Good luck to you all.


"What a Slug", I bought this because I needed the standard version so I could create custom controls for VB.net.
This software is a horrific resource hog. It runs so slow on my machine that it is almost unusable. (I am running a 1GHz machine with 392megs of RAM) It takes almost 5 minutes just to start the program and several minutes to load an existing project. I have also had problems with it when it finds a bug: you correct the bug and it will not let you back in to edit. You have to restart the program. Furthermore the documentation is garbage. It takes forever to search the MSDN help and then returns incomprehensible articles often that are not on the correct subject. Examples used are extremely complex instead of explaining things are a showcase for some MS programmer to show how smart he is. Furthermore if you think this is BASIC, think again. This language shares almost no relationship to the old VB6 or earlier visual basics. As far as Microsoft is concerned BASIC is dead.

"A fair product", I went with this because I thought the newest version would be best. It's a step up in design and presentation but for a moderate programmer like me, it's not much different from older versions. There are many good little things that makes this stand out (like search and replace feature has been redesigned so you don't accidentally replace all the wrong files), but there are bad little things that balance the good such as using L "enter string here" to use text with the WINAPI and putting a variable after using const. I'm not a Visual Studio expert but I'd say people will actually have more trouble really getting into this instead of less. In all, I still believe this to be a good product.... explaining things in simpler terms would be my suggestion for the future. I mean really, "Depreciated"? I think more people would get obsolete or just plain say the library has been improved. Apart from explanations, everything works and looks beautifully!

"Not Adequate, Not Ready, Not Usable", We've been waiting a long time for Studio 2005, and it's a very exciting release. Unfortunately, it's not ready for release. The package is unstable from the install onwards.

I'm a .Net programmer, a C# early adapter, a long-time user of sophisticated programming tools and IDEs including earlier versions of MS Visual Studio. And I've been a beta tester for MS as well as other major software companys.

This is beta-quality code, at best. Wait a while, as MS will undoubtedly get everything straightened out in time. OR, if you want to spend half a day installing a package that doesn't work right -- go for it.

 
 
 

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