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"Thanks, TextbookBiz" I'm glad I read TextbookBiz's warning regarding product registration. My friend uses PA 2005 and it seems easy enough, even though previously I had used Quickbooks (a few years back). I liked PA 2005's interface, so I came to Amazon to buy a copy for myself. There are people selling "new & used" for 1/5 the regular price, and I was naturally suspicious. After reading TextbookBiz's review I called up teh publisher on my dime and, indeed, they told me once a copy is registered, there's no way to re-install it, so you cannot install teh same copy on two PCs and you cannot transfer / sell the copy to someone else!
Of course, this is irksome for legit users, too. This is basically product activation, and you cannot use it on more than one computer. For $180 I really expect to be able to use this on all my PCs. I'd even be willing to send the company a picture to prove these are indeed my personal computers.
Thanks to TextbookBiz, I did not fall for the scams in the new & used section. I hope Amazon removes those listings.
"Beware of Registered Peachtree Products" Once a Peachtree product has been registered, you cannot legally sell it to another person. I know this fact from experience. After migrating to QuickBooks Pro, I contacted Best Software to find out how to "unregister" my Peachtree Accounting 2004 in order to sell. The customer representative informed me that once I registered my product, it had become mine, PERMANTLY. At the very least, the only option available to me was disposal.
So before making your Peachtree purchase, make sure the seller has not registered the product. Also, keep in mind that Peachtree software must be registered after fifteen uses, or else you will be locked out. And once you register, Peachtree is yours FOREVER!
"User hostile" Technically, this is a review of the 2004 version since I'm shopping for an upgrade. However, after reading the first review of this product I am going elsewhere, too. The Peachtree tech. support people I spoke to when I bought the software (3 of them) were rude and so uncooperative you wouldn't believe it. My accountant insisted I use Peachtree, but he's not getting his way in 2005. I use MS Money Small Business for everything but payroll and now I'm thinking I may need to subscribe to that through MSN, too. Peachtree is not only NOT user friendly, it is VERY user hostile.
"There are better software!" I give it 3 star, because it is been around for long time, but... Please look around and be more futuristic. Peachtree has lots of unfixed bugs and is out dated. I tested some software and found some really good, with reasonable price: BusinessWorks, Small Business Manager (microsoft.com), Quick Business Manager (bisaim.com),Vision Point 2000 (ACCPAC), BusinessVision 32 (Softline).
Good Luck in your search.
"As bad as the Complete peachtree with fewer features!" We are not in an industrial age any more! We want better software, much easier to use, and better interface. Why Peachtree is that hard? Remember DOS? How hard it was when Windows came about? Now peachtree is like that if you have used better software: Old tech.
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What our customer's say!
"Look for anything else", I have used Peachtree for a few years (I am using 2003 Complete Edition) as the accounting software for my small business. I work in software; this package is as badly designed as it gets. It's awkward, clumsy, confusing, inconsistent, and painful. It doesn't get any worse. Plus, I get "offers" constantly for "upgrades" that get me all of $10 off the retail price. I can't imagine paying another cent on this weak excuse for a product.
"Peachtree Brings Down Visual Basic", We have VB6 and VB.NET installed on our machines. We installed Peachtree Accounting on one of these machines. The Peachtree product degrades VB6 and, since our business is creating VB6/.NET software it is a threat to our business. Example, everytime we start VB6 Peachtree Accounting goes into its install process, however, it is already installed! Another example, everytime we complie a VB6 application (that is everytime we try to execute it in testing) Peachtree Accounting goes into its install process! This is bizarre. To add insult to injury the customer must pay for Best Software's support. So here we are with defective software that comprimises our ability to do business and we have to pay to have Best fix what is their poor quality software!!??? Bizarre.
"Importance of Peachtree Software to end user", I have been using Peachtree Accounting and Quickbooks software for the past eight years and I think Peachtree is better in terms of presentation especially for the financial reports.
In Quickbooks, anybody can use it in terms of compilation of books but the reporting is not presentable enough to impress the end user especially the big bosses, while in Peachtree Accounting it is more complicated to non accountants but the financial reporting is more impressive.
"Small business user...", I'm an engineer and normally I don't write review at all, except for this time. I started a new business a year ago and I've been looking for an accounting package to run the business. While searching, I'm using MS excel for a while. It's OK but I spend too much time to set it up weekly and enter daily expenes and sales journals. And I have not mention the time that I spend to maintain the customer, Inventory list and do payroll. To make a story short, I have another fulltime job and I can only work on the business book at night. Each night, I would spend at least 2-3 hours and I can't afford this because I have 2 small kids too. Since I brought the PeachTree 2005, I only spend 15-30 minutes to to all the needed tasks and run all different reports as I could not do in the spreadsheets. I have to admit that the software a bit confuse and hard to set it up in the begining especially for those who has no acounting backgroud. To start all I need is to import the customer list and the inventory then it's ready to use. Once you start use the software, and you can fine-tune what you need. Accounting is very principal but each business runs it differently. Over all I'm very happy with the product although I'm still learning new features from it every day after using it for 4 months.
"Want a refund..............", I am totally disgusted with this Peachtree Accounting 2005. Bought it in December, have not used it yet cause it is so darn complicated. Been reading the "User's Guide" that comes with the software and finally made a call to the tech support (it was still free-not charging me yet)to ask them. Told them we were a small company, I wanted to know how to enter our employees and let ME figure their paychecks without entering tax tables or buying their tax service. The tech told me how and I asked him to give me a page number in the "User's Guide" so I could look it up and follow along. Well, guess what?? It is NOT in the "User's Guide"!!! Not sure what good a "User's Guide" does for me if the company only puts in instructions that benefit THEM-they want you to sign up for The Peachtree Payroll Tax Service, which of course, is NOT free. Also, talked to our personal CPA and he said you almost had to be an accountant to be able to use it. So I have given up!!!
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"Not Bad, but there are better alternatives.", Peachtree is ok, but I do not recommend it for several reasons: 1. It has a very old interface. Make you tired and bored after a while! 2. Very complex. For example, you have to type 10.00, instead of just 10! 3. Old technology: Now we are in 2005 not in 1990!
And other thing I did not like.
I would personally recommend Small Business Manager (SBM) from Microsoft http://www.microosft.com or another alternative and less expensive is Quick Business Manager (QBM) from Business Aim http://www.bisaim.com. There other software I could recommend but it seems that these two are really using great technologies such as Microsoft .Net and SQL Server. Good Luck.
"Information to Consider", If you are a Quick Books (QB) user about to switch to Peachtree; don't worry you will be alright.
I have been in the accounting field for nearly ten years now and have used a variety of accounting programs from small business to enterprise levels. My new client uses PA2005, so I reviewed my PA2002 and went to Peachtree's website to view their online demonstration of PA2005 (very nice). I have used QB extensively and have their Premier 2004 package as well.
I was very surprised to see how identical the two programs are in about 99% of their respective GUI (graphical user interface) themes. PA uses a virtually indentical check book analogy and GUI navigation system as QB. They are so close as to remind me of Microsoft's (alleged) copying of Apple's OS (operating system) interface. It would be interesting to get the history on these two accounting products/companies. But I digress.
Counter to prior claims, QB does have an optional traditional double-entry system if you so choose to use it. Most of the time it was not necessary except for adjusting and reversing entries.
The main difference seems, at the moment, to be that PA's interface is a little cleaner and less busy than QB's. Both are essentially solid, both have problems with payroll, both have fee-based payroll services available. The biggest differences lay in product vertical integration. In other words, their upper level software.
PA's parent company is Best Software, the current owners of MAS 90 and MAS 200. QB's parent is Intuit, the owner of Lacerte. Both are fine industrial-strength programs. Both companies have migration paths to the greater packages if so needed. Intuit's migration path is better and will be easier to follow if you have not yet chosen your basic accounting program. They seem to have been seriously working on this for the last three years. Best is still getting there. If I knew Lacerte I could give you a better recommendation. I thoroughly enjoy MAS 90/200 and find it very flexible, but also very, very costly. Lacerte is not cheap either, but last I knew much more affordable.
In conclusion, if your boss has decided to migrate from QB to PA - don't worry. You'll be able to get up to speed very quickly.
If you haven't yet bought a package your decision process should include a look at their upper tier programs if you intend to grow past $50-125M/yr. If that is an issue you chose to address later, no worries there either. Conversion to a major package is a pain no matter who you choose.
If your income range is going to be pretty steady or not going to grow to mega millions, I would lean to QuickBooks at this time. They have done serious work on integrating their program with Access, Excel, and Word. They also have a great (fee-based) customer support system in place and they are, and have been for quite awhile, the #1 accounting software in the U.S. by volume of units sold and in-place.
Either package is acceptable and virtually identical in functionality. It seems to be a matter of preference of the user. I will report back if something spectacular presents itself in PA2005. At this time I anticipate none.
If your are in QB and thinking about a switch, I can tell you it is not worth the bother. This may also hold true if you're already in PA and considering a switch. For now competition has yielded two packages which are, at this level, completely interchangeable.
I imagine if there are to be any market upsets QB will really have to screw up their customer service or PA will dramatically improve theirs; which would include the open-sourcing their code.
"Longtime PT User. Looking for Alternative!!", I have used Peachtree Accounting since 1994. It is the only dual-entry accounting software on the market for the small business person who wants to do his own accounting. Although it is VERY difficult to use for the average person who is also not an accountant -- mainly because setting up and using it are cumbersome -- I continued to use it mainly for payroll. It is the only accounting program which allows me to manually update the payroll tax tables myself, and thus the reason I have not switched over to QuickBooks.
I have upgraded almost every year, but this will be my last! The new "registration" policy is asinine! I am no longer allowed to use the software on either my desktop and laptop. It used to allow me to do so.
I run no Fortune 500 company. I simply am a small business owner who keeps his own books. I do not always want to sit at my desktop computer doing payroll. Sometimes I want to use my laptop in the living room (or on the road) and access the data file via network on the desktop in my home office. The new system does not allow me to do this. Although I am not working from both computers at the same time, they consider this a need for a multiple license. This is asinine and thus prices their not-so-easy-to-use product out of my budget.
I must add that although I have used Peachtree since 1994, have a business degree and more than a few accounting classes in college to my credit, Peachtree is still very difficult and unintuitive to use. Again, the ONLY reason I still use it is the capability of manually editing the tax tables. I guess my using it on either of my two computers (nonsimultaneous) in the past makes me a criminal in their eyes. A paying one at that! Oh well .. they've lost my business forever anyway!
"Great Accounting Software", I am a user of Quickbooks Pro 2004 and have just converted one company to Peachtree. Although I will continue to use Quickbooks also (very popular in this area), I am very impressed by this software.
Pros - The installation was seemless. It only took 3 minutes to register on the 800 number. The (customizable) user interface is a real strongpoint. From My Business you can get where you want to be with one click. Reports are customizable. The user manual is very good. If you want to badly enough, you can enter your own user maintained payroll tables although I suspect the average user will do well to purchase the Peachtree updates for inhouse payroll. I am using Peachtree with the latest version of Pervasive.SQL (8.6); I was presented with a dialog asking if I wanted to do this (I do) and so far no problems at all. For those who remember the Btrieve problems of years ago, rest easy; the bugs are gone. For those who like to actually CLOSE their books (which you can't do in QB), you can; some people may see this as a con. You can see up to 2 previous years business; you might want to save pre-closing data as a separate company at years end.
Cons - If you are converting from Quickbooks don't expect individual transactions to be imported. This should not be surprising given the (excessively) proprietary QB db. The account balances will come over UP TO the day you choose to begin entering data (chosen during the conversion process). The customer/vendor lists etc. did come over, but you will want to edit them before you start entering business. Subaccounts become regular accounts during the conversion, but you can set up department masking (explained in the manual). If you are converting a company using Cash Basis instead of Accrual (I was), the accounts come over, but balances have to be entered manually. All this is explained in the Users Manual.
This is good accounting software. I'd much rather see them implement a registration strategy than absorb losses that could cause the excellent quality to suffer. I'm giving this one 5 stars.
"Nice Product", To whom it may concern: Please don't listen to "togre" about the activation issues. I totally agree that this information needs to be disclosed on the cover of the box but that should deter you from using the software.
Software piracy cost companies billions of dollars annually. I am not sure what type of company Togre is running but imagine if piracy didn't exist, every company would be more profitable.
All in all, this is a nice product to use for small business owners, I would recommend it without hesitation. As a web guru, it's nice to have a product that meet my 5 stars from an usability perspective.
Good Job "Best Software" and keep up the good work.
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