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"Best Soccer Simulation but NO WINNING ELEVEN 8!"
This game is the same as the European "Pro Evolution Soccer 3" and if you have heard the buzz surrounding that game then you should know that this is really the only soccer game worth buying and probably in the top three sports simulations of all time.

The problem is that Vivendi are too slow in releasing Winning Eleven 9, i.e - Pro Evolution Soccer 4, which has been out for over a month now in Europe so this is both a review for 3 and 4. You should not really get this game and try to get 4 because it is the latest version.

The game has been in development since the Nintendo 64 and is easily the best soccer engine out there. All of the players have full character skins that resemble the players in reality (real moving hair!), except some of the names are not the same because of license issues (don't worry you can edit everything in this game).

Apart from the outstanding game engine (replay mode is almost like real soccer on television) the character animations are intricate and extremely realistic. The players respond to fouls by falling in a multiple number of ways, other players throw their hands up in disgust at missing a goal or crash to their knees in exhaustion. Belt in a goal and watch them do a pile up as the crowd goes wild. Some players even have special moves.

Unlike most of the other soccer games this is a simulation rather than an arcade kick-about so if you are not prepared to spend a few days learning the controls and how to operate the environments, including formations and in-game strategies - you might just want to forget about this one, however this is the domain where the master players live and share memory card saved data with one another. In short soccer freaks the world over either have it, want it or plague the family of someone who has it.

The AI is really what makes Pro Evolution Soccer 3 stand out. It is also like really controlling little men on the pitch... what am I saying... they ARE really little men on the pitch (yes the game IS that good). There are 50 national teams and 60 fake teams. You need to go on the internet to find out who Konami imagined these fake teams to really be so you can edit in the right players names and team names (remember Konami does not have a license for everything so be prepared to do a bit of fiddling, however a huge percentage of the teams and players are already licensed).

There are multiple modes/games to choose from (up to 8 controllers/players can be used with this game) friendly matches, team play, match modes, cup modes, leagues, training simulations, edit modes and a Master League mode, each with several options for the type of game you want to play... there is no shortage of cups to win in this game. When you win about 3 cups you then have enough credits to start team transfers (meaning you can update EVERYTHING in this game to resemble actual football teams) and you can also create your own ALL STARS team.

The bottom line is that the manual for this thing is huge and it is everything you could ever want soccer to be. If there is one soccer game to own for the PS2, then this is it by a long shot. It is a great investment considering how many of your friends will play it to death with you over the many weekends to come.

If you play sport and don't own this game, then what are you waiting for? Just get this game, learn it, read the manual and be the best you can at it. This is the universal PS2 game that everyone who loves soccer plays and a really good dream team effort from Konami... just make sure that you spend your bucks on getting the latest version if you can.

"Best soccer for PC"
I have played just about every soccer game out there made for a PC and this is by far the best. Gameplay is awesome, doesn't matter what team or what players, it's just fun to play this game. I agree with some people that at times, especially at the beginning, it can be hard to shoot, but with time it gets better. Passing and through balls are very nice. Player names are not very accurate (Japanese translations probably) but you can edit everything in this game, player name, face, uniform, shoes, name pronounciation and even name on the jersey. You can also create your own players and teams. When you win tournaments and cups you get points to open new features and even classic teams.
If you want a real soccer game, this is it. Forget EA Fifa titles. This game is the closest it comes to real soccer.

"Better than FIFA, but"
I gotta tell ya, I loved this game when I first played it. If you are thinking what to get FIFA or WE7, choose the second. It's fun for a really long time.

I played this game from 2 star difficulty to 4 star. It was fun. But now it's just frustrating. I own 4 star... I have 60% ball posession, 20 to 3 shots on target. And I lose 1-3.

It's VERY annoying. I get a striker in front of the keeper, alone, 10 meters from the goal. I tap the shoot button, the striker digs the ball and sends it high to the sky... ok... I try again, I get my 90-accuracy, 90-shot power striker 15 meters from the goal. I shoot. He shoots with his strong foot, but like 5 meters wide. -_- Ok. I try more. Every time my strikers mess up. Once, I lose the ball. The striker runs, shoots from 40 meters out, gets perfect top corner past my world-class goalie. I check his stats - 50 shot accuracy, 40 shot power.

Um, what???

This game may be more realistic, it may have way more stats and tactic options that FIFA, yes it has all that, but it also has something that totally ruins it.

It switches players for you. A lot. And when you want a certain player to go for the ball and try to switch automatically, he rarely gets switched to.

Imagine this: one striker, one defender, one goalie. You control the defender. You're running along with the defender, in a second you'll tackle him. At that instant, the game switches players, because the defender who was supposed to mark that particular forward came within reach. The defender you were using simply runs away - it's not his job to mark the guy. The forward jogs, fools the keeper as if he was a third grader and taps the ball into the empty net.

Sound realistic enough?

Or, you intercept a pass in opponent's box, but let the ball go too far. Theoretically, you have posession, because you touched the ball last. But the ball's too far away, so the controller switches to some defender on the other side of the pitch. And what do the rest of the players do? What any player should do when your partner got a ball near the box - make a run. So instead of having my players chase the ball, all 5 or 6 of them run like idiots towards the goal while the opponent defender simply clears it way out.

Defenders going up is another awesome thing. I've got my best defender, my central fullback, sent off. Next thing I see when I get a corner is BOTH of the remaining defenders in the opponent's box. Guess what happens next? Opponent clears the ball, my defensive mid watches their striker take the ball, run, do the same fake on the keeper and shoot the ball in.

Or take the "awesome" way the players go for the ball. If the opponent touched the ball the last and it's going over the endline, and NOBODY is going to get it, it seems imperative that your player runs (without your being able to control him) to get the ball, tries to trap it right before it crosses the line, and voila, you got a corner instead of a goal-kick. And then on that same corner, your keeper barely stops a header and it goes right back to the opponent striker... Oh no, why would you run? Five of my players, both within a slide-tackle reach from the player, stare as he puts the ball in.

Note that this happens to the comp 100 times less than it does to you.

No, I know, WE7 has many awesome options. You can do so much that you can't do in FIFA 2004. You can't score with a defender from 50 yards out 9 out of 10 shots you make, for example. But if this game is realistic, my uncle is Bill Gates.

Great potential. But the controlling of the players needs to be improved a LOT.

"BAD SERVICE ON THIS ONE!!"
I ordered this game in May, and they are estimating my shipment to be at the end of July!!!! No complaints about the game, though.

"Beats EA's FIFA by a long ways"
I've played EA's FIFA series for several years now, but heard some good things about Winning Eleven. I received it last week and have already shelved my EA-FIFA collection to give away.

There's simply no comparison between the two when it comes to gameplay and modes available. WE's graphics are superb. EA's game commentary beats WE's because of the phrase variety, but with more commentary variety all aspects of sound will be equal or better than EA's.

The place where this game simply destroys EA's products is the gameplay. All I can say is, start reading about football tactics because you're going to need them to win, and no manual could be large enough to cover all the possibilities. 1) You're in control of the players all the time, something that EA games are horrible at, and 2) you can't glue the ball to your striker's feet, sprint past the defence, and blow a ball past the keeper. Not a chance here! Pass or die, set up well for shots, and think think think.

All-around superb football simulation!

  

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- Choose from 100 teams, and 21 different stadiums, within 4 regional leagues
- Pick a team and work your way up the ranks, becoming division champions and eventually reaching the Champions League
- New player search engine lets managers search through the league for players with specific abilities
- Complete customization for more flexible Character and uniform design
- Players can earn points in training&exhibition games, to improve their stats


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"What?", Not sure if its because its PC or what but this game has not impressed me control wise. It's what the game has been known for and I am deeply disappointed. I've used the Logitech controller as well and the control in this game compared to FIFA 06 is atrocious. I'm putting it down to the PC, footie games should obviously be played on consoles because I loved the MLS game Konami put out on the Playstation 1 back in the day. Reaction time is HORRIBLE! A deeply annoying game especially since I spent the time to make every team real and players real since Konami won't pony up for the licenses. In the immortal words of Farley......AAAAAAAngry.

"Great game", The game is really good, this is the first of the series that i bought, i liked it so far. once you get used to the controls and motions, the playing is good.

"I Never Thought I'd Like Soccer", I have never been a fan of soccer, nor the few games I'd tried on various game systems. I just get bored with it very quickly. So, when I was given this game as a hand-down, I decided to take it and try it out. I didn't expect much from it, but I got a whole lot from it. The graphics are pretty nice for one, and it looks like a real game on TV. Plus, for the first time, I found a soccer simulator that was actually fun and almost addictive. It's a great game and fun on a rainy day. The only minor complaint I'd make is that the controls are hard, and it takes a while to get used to and finally score some points.

"Fun, when it's not frustrating", WE7 is a hugely addicting game. With the ability to create players and customize clubs, and the engrossing master-league function, there's a lot to keep a player coming back.

But note that none of those things actually relate to the gameplay. There are huge flaws in the game which will hamper the fun-factor once you get to be better than average at the game. First, shot power and shot accuracy have very little to do with how often a player scores. My 90-power, 90-accuracy forwards regularly miss the goal from ten yards out. Honestly, I could go into my backyard and kick more accurately than that, yet the game seems to think it's perfectly realistic. As another review has mentioned, the way the game auto-changes your player on the defense is nothing short of pure stupidity. I can't even count the number of times I've been lining up a beautiful defensive stop, go in to slide for the tackle when abruptly the game changes me to another defenseman, who executes the slide-tackle from behind and draws a red card. It's impossible to coordinate a coherent defense under any circumstances.

All in all, what kills the game is randomness. In two championship matches against Trad Bricks, one of the better teams on the game, I scored eleven goals and allowed one. In the very next game, against a team that was in the bottom half of the division, I couldn't score a single goal! As another review also mentioned, the game is flawed in how it handles loose balls as well. If there is a loose ball near the goal line (whether I'm attacking or defending), all of my players will gawk at it, as if they've never seen a football before in their lives. But if a shot ricochets off the goalkeeper and is heading out of bounds so that I'll get a corner kick, my players will run toward it as if their life depends on it, firmly booting the ball out of bounds and giving the opponents a free kick instead. I imagine that WE8 is better in terms of AI, but 7 is horribly deficient.

That said, the game was incredibly fun for me up until I reached the skill level where the flaws began to bother me. I still get a kick out of having my own personal club on the game, and plowing through Master League mode to win championships. But with as much fun as the game brings me, it brings just as much anger and frustration when players inexplicably miss wide-open nets, auto-change to a defender nowhere near the player with the ball, or pass the ball directly to the other team. Buy it, by all means, and have fun with it for a while. Just be ready to move on when it starts to bother you.

"Exit FIFA, Enter Winning Eleven 7!!", I have to admit EA sports FIFA series has definitely been a center of attraction for football gamers around the globe for quite some time. Now after Konami has introduced their line of Football games starting with Winning Eleven 6 they have dominated since. The quality of Winning Eleven 7 has put EA sports FIFA series to shame because of it's realistic Football gameplay. The graphics are not quite as good as EA but realistic gameplay is all that matters and that is why this game gets 5 out of 5. There are a few bugs but it's nothing Konami can't fix unlike EA who keep transfering those bugs to every new game and don't really know how to fix them. This game is worth every penny unlike EA's games which should be worth a penny in comparison. If you are a true footie fan then you will enjoy everything this game has to offer from passing to scoring goals because in this game anything goes and there is no specific formulated way of scoring goals!! All I can say now is EA step aside 'cause Konami has taken over PERMANENTLY!!!



 
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"This is by far the best sports game to date", This here is a true masterpiece of soccer simulation, i own it for the playstation 2 and i can assure you that its the best sports game to date, the graphics, the gamplay, the phisics are very realistic, and it gives you plenty of reasons to keep playing it alone or with your friends , this game is not like EAs Fifa games; in those games the players run like girls and the graphics are choppy, but this game is perfect, i totally recomend this one , plus we mexican people enjoy the soccer with so much passion and this is the only game that translates all the exciment,feeling and speed of the real game on to the virtual field........buy it, you wont regret it

"Better than EA FIFA", This is my very first PC soccer/football game and I think it's, it's fun and fantastic. My favorite features are:

1) Training mode - you can practice your gameplay before heading out on one of the play modes
2) Edit and create players - put yourself into the game with uber abilities. You can also edit the existing players. My USA Team can hang with the best and finally win the big one.
3) Comp vs Comp - it's like watching a soccer game on the telly. You can let the comp make all the decision or you can just play the manager by selecting formations, strategy, etc and then just watch the action.
4) Master league mode - there's no MLS league here which IMO is a bummer yet I can play the Euro teams I've never heard of.

The graphics are very well done and there doesn't appear to be any fps lag at all. Some people have reported problems with game speed, either it's too fast or too slow. Though I have not experience that at all. The gameplay is very smooth and fluidic. I still need to practice passing a lob. It's not as easy as with a FIFA game. It's probably my lack of skills.(...)

"WE7 and PES", Actually, Pro Evolution Soccer and Winning Eleven are the same game. Pro Evolution Soccer is the game name for Europe/PAL regions and Winning Eleven is for the US, Japan and other NTSC regions. Both are great fun!!

"Release date and different versions", I placed this order a few days ago to coincide with the release date on March 16, only to be pushed back to April 6 next month. Hopefully they won't run into too much bug issues.
Alright I've played WE7i on PS2 and downloaded the PES3 demo. After playing both, they look like they don't differ that much. Hold on to that thought! Somehow, there is a tiny bit difference. I just recently tested PES3 demo so I still can't tell what the difference is, but I can feel it. The reason I am getting this game is I don't have a PS2, and PC is much better especially with superb graphic cards and sound. I didn't get a chance to test PES3 full version so I don't know if there are bug issues. The demo version typically has some issues with graphics rendering and sound, well that is just demo.
For those of you who are new to this or accustomed to playing the other brand-named soccer software game on the keyboard, I suggest you get a PC joypad that has the same number of buttons and functions as the PS2 joypad. The reason is that the movements are much more fluid. Although keyboard still works fine it is a bit tedious.
Overall I would agree that if you already owned a PS2 version or the PC PES3, then you don't have to get this one, unless you are a hardcore fan. It is definitely a game worth keeping, and with Euro 2004 around the corner, it only gets better ;)

"No Difference?", Is it the same really? I mean what about the needs that you have to have to play it on the computer. Because we are having hard time to play it even with a strong capacity computers. Do you think they fixed that problem?
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