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"Slick, but missing something." Nice program, easy to get started in if you have some CAD experience. I wish it had a way to make prints that were acceptable to our county building office for construction, but you can export/import .DWG and or .DXF files for a real CAD program. Some of the controls are a little clunky, but from the other software of similar styles that I have used, this one is pretty good.
"Difficult t ouse" A couple of years ago I bought home design software from Punch software and gave up on it after a few days of trying to figure out how to use it. (And I'm very technical and generally good with new software). I would not recommend this software unless you really have the time to spend figuring it out.
Google recently released a FREE home design software. Much like other Google products, this one is very easy to use - although not as powerful as one you might purchase. Before buying, I strongly recommend you check out Google's offering. Visit sketchup.google.com to take a look.
"difficult to use" I was really looking forward to using this project. I am a designer without CAD experience. I thought that the guide was difficult to use and confusing. I thought that the program was likewise difficult. I am sure that someone with CAD experience would have no problem using it, but if you knew how to use CAD why would you need a new program? I really would have liked it if they could offer a training course - even an online training tutorial or CD. I have basically given up on using it for any professional application.
"Jack of All Trades, Master of None" Strengths: Support for nearly every aspect of home design, from foundation to landscaping
Weaknesses: Sometimes quirky interface; less functional in some areas than others
Overall, Punch! Home Design Architectural Series 18 (HDAS18 hereafter) is a pretty solid product for the price. It's big draw is that it is a home design suite. That is, it claims to provide the user with the ability to control every aspect of home design, from plotting the topography of your lot, to constructing your floor plan, to landscaping and adding furnishings to your new virtual home. For the most part, HDAS18 delivers on its promises.
Unlike other comparable software packages, which are actually composed of several different stand-alone applications, HDAS18 is an integrated package. While there are different applets within the program to work on, say, the framing of your virtual home, all of these applets are launched fairly seamlessly from within the program itself. These applets, which Punch! calls PowerTools, run the gamut from the quite useful to the impossibly difficult to master. Topo designer, for instance, allows you to precisely edit the topography of your site, adding slopes and gullies to your lot which the program takes into account when you lay your virtual foundation. Other PowerTools, such as 3D Custom Workshop, are more frustrating to use. The idea of creating custom 3D objects such as furniture, decor, etc. to add to your design is appealing, but users without extensive CAD (computer-aided design) software experience will find this feature virtually unusable.
I purchased this product primarily for its landscaping function. I want to add some landscaping to my existing home, and I wanted to be able to visualize my ideas in 3D before committing the time and money to creating a lawn that I would ultimately be unsatisfied with. Unfortunately, I was a little disappointed with the landscaping features of HDAS18. Like most of the other features in the program, it's fairly comprehensive. The software includes a fairly large library of different plants, which can be searched using criteria such as name, hardiness zones, and recommended sunlight exposure. However, I found that adding the plants I wanted to my landscape was frequently hindered by inaccurate information. HDAS18's plant database contains information on the size of plants, from seedling to mature, and it uses this information to determine how large the plant's 3D model should be. Many plants I attempted to use, however, were mis-sized at one point or another. For instance, I could only plant a sago palm that was 6' in diameter, even though I can buy a 12" plant at my local nursery. This can be worked around by substituting other plants, but it was a bit of a disappointment.
Generally, the program's other features work a little better than the landscaping tool, but laying out the walls, floors, and roof of home plans could be simpler and more streamlined. There's a great roofing wizard, for example, that can create a hip roof for your design in just a matter of seconds. This didn't prove helpful to me, however, as I wanted to add a gable roof with a 10:12 pitch covering a living area with a ceiling having a 4:12 pitch. Ultimately, I was able to achieve the desired look by adding several roofs at different heights to my home, but there should be an easier way to do something like this. Likewise, soffits can only be added by awkwardly using the flooring tool and adding a virtual top floor to your design; this should be integrated into the roofing tool.
Although it falls short of the ideal home design program, Home Design Architectural Series 18 is a well-rounded product for its price. It's stronger in some areas than in others, and none of its tools are perfect, but you could very easily create plans for an entire homesite, including topography, blueprints, electrical, HVAC, and landscaping using only this program--after overcoming the moderately steep learning curve, of course. Most other programs that offer this much functionality are probably out of the league (in both performance and price) of HDAS18, placing this program in the sweet spot of price vs. performance. If you want a home design program that will do everything but don't have several hundred (or thousand) dollars to spend on professional-grade software, then this is the home design suite for you.
"Punch Home Design 18" A step above Etch-A-Sketch. Fell way below my needs. Full of bugs. OK product for first time homeowner wanting to tinker around with thier plans.
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"Hard to use, do not but from Hermanstreet", I am used to the Broderbund 3D 3.0. It is simple to use but even they have become more dificult to use in the latter versions. It is hard to do one section of a house at a time, and make adjustment to rooms. It's is a program for someone who knows what they want for a floor plan in the beginning. I would like to work backwards. start with the one room, with furniture, add the next room. then if I like the plan, then work on the roof and foundation. unfortunately the Broderbund 3.0 version does not work on Vista, or the campatibility mode.
"Has anyone at Punch ever built a house!?", This program is adequate for designing dog houses, but not for the real deal. The most fustrating thing with this program is adding floors (the type you walk on, not a story). Punch seems to think that the second story walls of a building are built directly on top of the first story walls - no Punch, they are built on top of the floor that sits on top of the walls below it. That throws your elevations off by about a foot for each story (assuming 10" joists and 5/8" plywood).
When you look at the detailed framing view, you can see they have no clue how a house is framed.
"More cons than pros", I bought the suite to draw a set of working plans for a home I'm building hoping it would be an improvement over the plans I've roughed out on graph paper. I've used AutoCad in my work as an engineer, and had my own contracting business for several years - so I'm familiar with both building and drafting trades. I didn't expect the full features of a CAD program, but frankly hoped for better. The program strength is the 3-D rendering, but the 2-D design features are primitive. Basic drawing features such as midpoint, offset, group/ungroup are not supported. The program has a frustrating way of putting objects such as electrical fixtures on top of others with no way to edit the lower object(s). Other quirks abound - when you undo an edit the program displays hidden layers, trying to change print settings is futile - the default view is all you get. There may be some tricks and work-arounds, but after almost a week of working with it I've concluded this isn't worth further effort. Oh, and if there is tech support on this product it isn't easy to access.
"Punch AS18 Home Architecht", I wouldn't recommend this software to anyone. Have had it for about 2 years now and still unable to properly draft a project. Very user unfriendly. After purchasing the program I tried to put a plan together just for my home to have for future upgrades to the structure. I had 90 day support they advertised and called to try to get the system down so I was familiar with working with it. I had read the book that came with it but was not very clear or structured as to how to begin and how to follow through the planning processes. After contacting the support folks they were very reluctant to provide answers to my questions always referring back to reading the book again that came with the program. I was expecting a much larger library of windows, doors, lights, electrical, etc and all fell very short of expectations of advertisements. Pictures represent all custom drawn windows lights etc. Save you money on this one your money could be better spent.
"Good software", This is a highly rates software for home design. I was never really able to use it because it seems to require some AutoCAD training.
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Read this reviews before You buy..."Unsuitable for intended purpose.", My advice is to avoid this product. The manual is unclear and just plain inaccurate in places. Exact placement and manipulation of walls and groups of walls is very difficult and tedious. Many times I found myself having to delete several items and walls in order to change a specific wall. It would be extremely helpful if a wall could be locked in position with a menu toggle. Creating walls for vaulted ceilings was extremely frustrating. There is no automatic way to have a group of walls be the same maximum height and meet correctly with vaulted ceilings. This makes roofing design a painful process also. The 3d views are graphically very good, but the controls for manipulating them are inadequate. It is extremely difficult to do a walk thru from the 3d window. The only way I found to do a controlled walk thru was by using the viewpoint tool in the 2d window. This causes you to do a lot of scrolling and wastes desktop space the 3d view could be using so you end up with less of a perspective than you should have. I have also run into strange glitches with the 3d view that would cause windows and doors to become solid walls again, despite still showing up on the 2d plan. Some times closing the program and restarting would fix the problem and other times I would have to discard the plan and revert back to an earlier save. This is very annoying and time wasting. My biggest annoyance by far though is that there is no kind of feasibility checking in the program. With a consumer level product some kind of check to evaluate your plan should be present. Something to tell you that your floor needs support at a certain point or it will fall or the concrete pad you are pouring needs reinforcement at specific places. I know many other home design programs have some form of checking in them. It seems Punch software has no checking of any kind. This would be valuable to avoid many simple mistakes and to make the estimator tool much more accurate. If necessary elements are left out because you did not know they were needed, how is the program going to estimate the amount of materials needed with any kind of accuracy? This program actually seems to be geared to a professional contractor or architect with knowledge of good building practices, but I'm guessing it would be inadequate for them in many other ways. There is not nearly enough help for the amateur designers who only want to tinker with their own house or put a dream home down on paper. "An exceptional product!", I will make it short and sweet! Punch has developed many different programs and Architectural series 18 tops them all! I have been using PUNCH software from the beginning in 2000! I have been very satisfied with their programs. "Built a VR model of my new home", I found the Punch 18 interface easy to use. First, I scanned my first, second, and elevation blue prints into a picture image as a file. Next, I imported the both the first and second floor designs into punch; using the ruler, I redimension the floor plan designs to scale; next I added exterior walls, interior walls, doors, windows, tiolets, tubs, sinks, and mirrors; punch allows you to switch between floors and see only the working floor or all floors; using the custom wizard, I added furniture, entertainment centers, tables, and appliances - additionally, the custom wizard allow you to create user defined objects; next, I used the cabinet wizard to design the kitchen cabinets full, bottom, and top to dimension. Punch allowed me to add staircases, porches, and landscapes. Textures for the exterior such as siding, rock, and stucco were also available from a drag and drop capability. I was also able to add different types of roofs and control their elevation and the exterior walls were pitched up to match the roof angles. However, I did not find a turret type roof which I needed. Features I found difficult, the 2D navigation control was ok. You have a dot and arrow to control movement of the 3D tour, it requires two clicks, one to move, and one to orientate. If you have a computer graphics accelerator card, the running man mouse navigation is two fast even at the slowest setting. I have a VR home exportable to VRML for the internet. I've seen my home before it was built. The control of size and portion was very helpful. By adding color and texture, lighting, and landscapes the complete picture of your home is possible. You can import photo images into the model increasing realism. A good buy for the money.
"Fine for the consumer, but not for constuction documents", Punch! AS 18 gets a C+ grade at best. It's fine for drawing up a house to "walk though" to get a feel for what it will look like, but it falls frustratingly a bit short of providing the tools needed to design real construction drawings that you could give to a contractor or submit for permits. I'm designing a two bedroom apartment over a garage, and I need to submit drawings to my city for permits. The last design I submitted to the city for permits was a garage that I designed using pencil and paper four years ago. I'm an engineer and I'm used to drafting in this fashion. However, it was painful when I had to make a change to a window or a door, erasing and re-drawing all the wall studs and everything. So, being the 21st Century, I figured that there has got to be some architectural software design program out there that a design/builder could use to draft up drawings to submit to the city for permits without having to manually draw wall studs (like AutoCAD and other general CAD programs). I searched high and low and found that you could spend $1,000 or more for a true architectural design program like Chief Architect or ArchiCAD, and everything cheaper seemed to fall into the consumer floor plan design category of not being able to produce real construction drawings. Since I draw up buildings for permits about once every four or five years, I didn't want to spend $1,000 for a program. I thought Punch! AS 18 would be just the ticket. It has a framing utility for automatically framing walls, floors and roofs, and it has an elevation editor. The frustrating part of this software is that on the surface it appears to provide the features needed to design construction documents. It's only when you put the software to work that you realize its deficiencies. For instance, the software has a framing tool for adding wall, floor and roof framing. It provides very "pretty" 3D views of the framing. But, when you decide to print a framing section, you find that you cannot print the section to scale. It also doesn't insert any dimensions or allow you to manually insert dimensions or text. Your typical contractor isn't going to pull out a scale to find that your header is 2 @ 2 x 12, and the city wants to see this information. So, you can sort-of work around this deficiency by saving the "image" as a BMP file, editing it in an image editing program like PaintShop Pro to print at the correct scale and add the required text. The question that begs itself is why Punch! didn't program the software to automatically display dimensions and text in the framing editor? It already has all the information in the design for header sizes, height, width etc. It also doesn't allow for edits to the rafters or studs. One of the rafters was displayed with a large spacing of about 25" on my design, while all the other rafters were spaced at 16" o.c. It doesn't allow you to edit this at all, and again, you have to edit the BMP file in a drawing program to try to get it right. This is only one of the deficiencies. The DXF export utility will export every floor on top of itself. So, when you open the file in a CAD program, you see a huge mish-mash of dimensions and floors on top of itself. The program really didn't want to draw a basement, and I had to do all sorts of work arounds to show one. At one point I had a 3' deep foundation showing up at 6' high in the air, and it took me hours of editing to get the foundation to display correctly. As with other reviewers, I had the problem of objects protruding through walls, and I had to constantly view the design in 3D to be sure everything was aligned and not penetrating another solid body. If all you want to do is see what your house design will look like after it's built by using the 3D walk through and fly around features, this product should work fine for you. However, it seems like there are plenty of lower priced competitors (3D Home Architect, FloorPlan 3D, etc.) that will do the same thing. If you want to draw construction documents, look elsewhere or draw it up by hand. While you may be able to monkey around with this program to get what you need eventually, either by editing in another program or editing with a pencil after printing, it's a frustrating experience when you know that other software out there will do what you need.
"Better than I expected!", I did a lot of web based research on this product and others before buying Punch! A/S18. There were a number of negative reviews from people who seemed to want a something that would give instant results or complained about system crashes. I installed the product, and then installed the latest update patch from the Punch! website before actually using the product. I have about 20 hours use on this product installed on a Dell PC (Dimension 8250 2.4Ghz, 512k memory, and ATI Radeon 9700 XT series video card.) It runs very fast and I have had no crashes. This software requires a learning curve to become comfortable and proficient. Do not expect instant gratification. If you want that, buy the $30 - $50 packages that allow no freedom of design. Rather than telling you what it does (you can read that on their website) I think I should tell you what to expect. First, I was frustrated when I tried to jump right in. Then I kicked back, opened the printed manual and read through it with the software open to follow along. The included video examples are great. I made good use of them. There are some stumbling blocks, but there are work arounds for all obstacles I ran into. Example: I wanted to have the support posts show in the basement in 3d fly through mode. There is nowhere to choose them from a menu. But, if you go to the Punch! 3D Workshop (a really cool program) in THREE clicks I had drawn a column, then saved it to my floorplan. There are textures for all the concrete, brick, stucco, wood, paint colors, etc needed to textureize or color your floors, walls and ceilings. More complex items like staircases are chosen from a menu and sizeable. The staircase tool will put stairs wherever you drag your mouse, so you can make some wild staircases. Walls are just point and click. Dimensions can be added where they do not appear automatically if you need them. When adding things like doors, you can choose the style, size, and hinge side and swing. Just drag and drop to the floorplan. Same goes with windows, archways, etc. There are many premade objects like cabinets, dishwashers, range, TV's, furniture, furnace, A/C, etc to drag and drop onto the plan. Any object you can add to your plan is customizable in the 3D workshop. There is also a user website (www.punch-alternatives.com) that has many 3D objects you can add, from autos, to customized cabinets, etc all made and contributed by Punch! purchasers. Overall, I rate the product very high, especially for the money. Its abilities put it head and sholders above the $60 products. You need a little patience to get started, and then you will just fly through the construction process. You are only limited by the amount of detail you are willing to add. One last thing, when I called Tech Support to find out how to cap a half height wall, they actually answered the phone. No menu, no waiting. And they talked me right through the problems I had. Now I keep the included PDF manual open when I'm working to do searches on topics I need to learn. It makes things so much easier. So take your time and enjoy! Chef Peta
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