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"Fantastic value!" The good:
* Incredible value - a great tripod for the money * Solid construction. I don't have to baby it. * Head is marked in 10 degree increments making 360 degree stitch shots (for Quicktime 3d, etc). a snap (assuming your optics are centered).
The not-so-good:
* Some backspin at the end of pans, especially slow pans * The remote zoom in-out control on the handle seems backwards to me (push forward to zoom out.) * I miss the ability to quickly adjust side-to-side tilt from my el-cheapo unit.
The verbose:
This tripod is a fantastic value. When I first got my Sony HDR-HC1 camcorder, I needed an ultra-portable tripod for a trip to Asia. The one I picked up was about $40 and pretty wobbly, but it fit in my backpack and was suitable for static shots and very basic movements.
Recently, however, I was asked by a client to do a quickie promotional video (my first time "doing it all" from concept to shooting to editing). After reviewing the results of my first day of shooting (mostly buildings and equipment shots), the limitations of my budget tripod were all too apparent. Pans were jerky, and camera shake was really bad, particularly at the beginning and end of shots as I started and stopped tape. That afternoon I ordered the VCT870RM for next day delivery.
My next shoot was a night-and-day difference! The head provides very smooth vertical and horizontal pans. The tripod feels solidly built, has enough mass to be stable, but isn't too heavy to carry (I even got a low-end steadycam shot with it), and the integrated controls make life much better if your camera supports the LANC standard. I was able to get some great shots that utilized pan, tilt, and zoom all at once, and without any shaking.
The only negatives I've found include a tendency for it to make a slight move in the reverse direction at the end of slow pans. I worked around this by holding a little pressure on the handle and making the end of the shot a little longer. Additionally, the remote zoom control on the handle seems backwards to me. You push forward to zoom out and backward to zoom in. I still haven't gotten used to that.
In the "things to be aware of" category, this isn't an overly large tripod (though it can get the camera around 6' off the ground), but it isn't super small either. It comes with a fairly nice, unpadded carrying case with strap, but you're not going to be fitting it into your backpack between shots. It also doesn't have a side-to-side tilt, which my cheapo tripod did. I'd rather have to adjust the legs more often and get great image stability, however, than to have side-tilt and shakes.
I definitely recommend this tripod for people new to video (and maybe even as a 2nd/3rd budget unit for pros) - it's amazing how much you can improve the quality of your shots for just a little more money. If I could give 4.5 stars I would (1/2 star deduction for the pan backspin).
I'm extremely happy with this purchase and would get another one if it were stolen (or if I started doing two-camera shoots). I also have a suspicion that I won't be able to go back to a non-controller tripod anytime soon!
For comparison:
As I said, I'm a newcomer to video and don't have direct experience with more high-end tripods. The other models I looked at included the Sony VCT1170RM ($365) and a few different Bogen models. I didn't see an overwhelming reason to spend an additional $245 on the 1170, especially given the low weight of my camera, and I couldn't find an affordable Bogen that also had an integrated remote control interface. If you do go this route, Sony's RMVD1 add-on controller will run you about $35. I prefer having an integrated unit, however, as the controls are bigger, easier to use, and it's one less thing to lose.
"Very nice lightweight tripod--good traveler" For it's price, which i in the mid-consumer range, and well below the pro range, it's a very nice little tripod.
The legs lock firmly and are easy to latch and unlatch, the leg brace is at the bottom of the first set of leg tubes, which puts it off the ground even at the lowest height, overall manufacturing quality is very good--including the carrying case which is tough enough to last a while, unlike most such bags included with consumer equipment. It's a mid-weight nylon canvas with a self-repairing plastic zipper.
I'm shooting with a moderately heavy camera (VX1000) at 4+# additions for a total weight of around 6-7#
It is a LIGHT tripod. With the tripod fully extended it has a tendency to wobble a bit under the weight of my gear. Weighting this one in windy conditions or when shooting fully extended (especially with telephoto,) is a necessity.
As others have noted, the zoom control moves the reverse of most camera zooms which is a pain to get used to, but can be gotten used too. (Hey LANC controls generally cost more than this tripod with it's controls!) If it continues to bother me, I may disassemble and reverse the control.
With a lighter 1-2# consumer camera it is a VERY nice tripod, with less weight on top it is extremely stable.
The carrying bag is very nice bonus. It's deigned to slip over your head and arm and run across your back--I'm 6'4" and have no trouble with it binding, and it is light enough to be barely noticeable. Very nice if you're traveling.
As a consumer tripod its an excellent choice esp. if you are shooting with one of the newer small cameras, The LANC control helps stop a lot of camera wiggle and makes for smooth combination pan/tilt /zoom operations.
The fluid head is of very good quality for the price, and has a nice range of adjustable drag.
For heavier gear it needs added bottom weights outside, but works pretty well indoors.
Besides the backwards zoom my only trouble has been that I accidentally hit the on/off button a lot--but that's mostly due to my height which tends to make me grip the handle in a choke grip.
The LANC control should also be improved had they made the I/O a standard LANC plug rather than the molded relief permanent cable--it's too easy to forget to disconnect the cable when removing the gear, and I have some concerns about the longevity of that built in cable.
THe LANC control handle is removable which opens up the possibility of using it from some distance away from the camera (I have a 20' LANC extension cable for use when the camera is mounted outside a vehicle
I've shot about 7 hours of a documentary with it to date, and it has performed very well.
I recommend it for consumer lightweights and reservedly recommend it for heavier prosumer cameras. You're not going to want to put a camera, lights, additional mic, transmitters and sound mixer on the head, but it does perform very nicely as a camera & mic support.
"Decent tripod, bad QA, OK return policy" I ordered this from Warehouse Deals as a returned unit. When I got the tripod, it was decent quality for the price, with the head being decently smooth and the legs were stable and a little stronger than others lead me to believe. Unfortunately, the LANC cable, which is what set this apart from other tripods, was obviously cut in half and not user-servicable, so I had to return the unit. I got a "full refund" which apparently means the price of the unit but not the shipping costs. Shipping a unit with a cut, external, and fairly obvious defect and not refunding the shipping seems a bit less than I expected.
"Decent lightweight tripod with lanc control" I purchased the VCT870RM after reading it was as good as a professional bogen of which I have five.
It isn't, not even close, but it is a good tripod for the price, weight and size considerations and the built in lanc control is very nice.
The tripod easily collapses to a nice compact size with flip locks (I like those far better than friction turns) and is very, very light.
The lightness works against the tripod in regards to unwanted accidental motion, but is great for travel and moving around and this is an acceptable compromise in my opinion for many situations.
I really like the built in lanc remote control (far less clumsy than add ons which I also own) with which you can turn the cam power on and off as well as the record (and photo) on and off, but most importantly it gives you a very controllable variable power zoom that allows you a slower zoom than you can manage with many of the newer Sony cam's on cam zoom controls.
The mounting plate is large and solid and the built in turn key is far handier than those that require a screwdriver or even the bogen's turn knob style.
The tilts and pans, while not as fluid or controlled as the bogens is completely acceptable.
There is one negative, there is a slight resistance to any beginning tilt move (both up and down) which resolves itself at your end motion with a "resetting" just a tad back in the direction you started in.
While you can account for this in your tilt motion to end where you want you cannot avoid the "back off" movement short of maintaining a manual rock steady(not easy to do)end pressure.
This is disappointing as it makes the tripod less than ideal in situations where precise movement is desired often or continously.
Considering this entire tripod costs significantly less than an add on lanc remote controller alone it is a very great value within it's limitations.
For on the go I will use this tripod often, for critical movement jobs the bogens will remain the tool of choice.
"Awesome Tripod" I tried about 5 other tripods for my Sony HDR-FX1 video camera before purchasing this one. All the others had an issue with jerky motion when panning after the camera had been sitting still for a moment. With the others, there was always a slight jolt as you began to pan, which would ruin many shots. This Sony VCT870RM is the closest thing to a true fluid motion as is possible in a very affordable tripod. Having the remote operation on the tripod handle has made shooting much easier and provides better results because there is no awkwardness when trying to zoom and pan at the same time.True one handed operation of the camera. For being a lightweight tripod it is also very stable and it comes with a handy carry bag. It is well worth the price. I would recommend this tripod to anyone.
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Sony VCT870RM Tripod w/Remote for Sony MiniDV, DVD, HDR-HC5 & HC7 Camcorders
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List Price : $179.99
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Why I buy this one ?
- Keep your camcorder or digital camera steady and ready for action
- Expands from 26 to 64 inches
- Built-in level and 2-way pan head for easy portrait and landscape shooting with quick release
- Remote controlled grip allows you to control zoom, record, start/stop and lock/standby functions
- Easy height adjustment with elevator mechanism
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What our customer's say!
"tripod sony ", This tripod is out of production, although I bougth it because the price and the need of lanc connection for my camcorder Sony DSR PD170, was the only model with a reasonable price. The desadvantage is that it can not hold stablity for the camcorder, too light, not enough hight, and the locks for the vertical and horizontal moves are not good enough, you loose in trying to loose or tight the buterfly nuts. The only advantage is the remote controller and the price. I hope Sony can improve it like the next level but with more confortable price.
"Good Pro-sumer Value", The Sony VCT-870 is the tripod I bought. I think the LANC will also work with Cannon cameras.
I like the fluid-ness of the head as there appears to be very little static friction. The pan and tilt are both smooth. The tripod legs are heavier and sturdier than the most expensive tripod I have seen in the electronic box stores or pro photo stores. I have been looking to buy a tripod for 2-3 years now and have not seen a pro-sumer version that I thought would be good enough for video. The legs are double extension with a flip-over friction clamps for quick setup and leveling. There is a built in bubble level at the apex of the legs. The center column extends up like most tripods out there. With everything extended I still get good enough stability. I am 6' 6" tall and it extends tall enough for me. The removable mounting plate has no slop in it. The mounting plate lever clamp is spring loaded closed but has an automatic trigger pin that keeps it open until the plate is inserted.
With that said, I noticed several review saying the PAN function was too stiff. I agree that it is too stiff. If the tripod is just sitting on the ground, panning will cause the tripod to flex and wants to tip a little. There is no static friction, just high drag friction (this is of course with the drag control backed out). The TILT can have close to no drag at all which makes for difficult pan/tilt movements since the forces are different for each direction. I did notice that when the tripod warmed up in the sun for a while, the pan drag eased up a bit.
The "work around" for this dissimilarity of drag is to add enough tilt drag to equal the pan drag. The drag control adjustment is very accurate and does not stick, bind or jump like the cheaper ones sold at electronic box stores. When I shoot a football game, if I securely strap the tripod to a handrail, the pan drag is not an issue at all since the drag will add stability to the shot. If the tripod is free standing, I grab the neck of the tripod with my left hand and the handle with my right hand. My left hand will add the needed stability to counter act the flexing or drag of the tripod while my right hand aims the shot. This provides more than acceptable results for shooting football plays since the action is fast and last for only 20-30 seconds at a time. If I were to shoot a theatrical event or a long slow shot, I think the panning might be more of an issue if you could not securely strap the camera down. It would be harder to steady the free standing tripod without adding a little occasional hand movement.
The main reason I purchased this model was because of the LANC controller built into the handle. This controller is a TRUE variable speed zoom controller. A lot of the after market "clamp on" controllers have a zoom in/out toggle switch with a separate variable speed knob. This would be almost impossible to shoot a variable speed zoom in, stop, then zoom out as it would take juggling two controls with one hand. I have only used four of the functions - Power ON, Record Start/Stop, Zoom IN, and Zoom Out. The Zoom function is reversed from what you would intuitively think. To "push in" or zoom in you pull back on the controller. To "pull back" or zoom out you push the controller forward. After a short time of working with the controller you start to sub-consciously zoom correctly without having to think about it. The complete handle is easily removable and can mount on the left or right side of the tripod head. The controller/handle could be used to zoom or start/stop a remotely mounted camera such as a steady-cam or boom type operation with only a LANC extension cable.
It was my intention to reverse the zoom pot to make it function the intuitive way. The pot is custom made with a flexible plastic multi-conductor cable. The pot can not be mounted backwards as it is built with a one-way snap in design. The three conductor plastic cable terminates with a four conductor end that plugs into an edge connector. You can not simply flip the cable over as the active three conductors will be offset and the conductive side would be opposite the contacts. The last possibility is cutting the circuit board and swapping the two outer leads. I have no problem with doing this as I used to modify circuit boards all the time in a previous job. The problem is that one of the outer conductors continues to other parts of the board and can not easily be bypassed. I gave up and decided to learn how to use it backwards. It did not take as long to get used to it as I thought it would.
I would buy this tripod again if I ever needed another one. I would be willing to pay up to $200 for it as I see it as being a good $100 tripod with a good $100 LANC controller.
The ONLY reason I did not rate it 5 stars is because the legs could still be a little stronger to counter act the pan drag. I would only rate something 5 stars if there were no room for improvement. I think it is a good compromise and good value. I give the value aspect 5 stars.
"Never Disappointed, Great!", I have 3 tripods price range from $40.00 to $80.00. They make noises when I turn any directions. But this one turns smooth without making a any sequaking noises. I couldn't believe when my wife liked it. That's A+.
"Outstanding performance", I have purchased and used the Sony VCT870RM Tripod side-by-side with professional tripods for projects in Video Production Technology II, and its performance is equal to the professional tripods. The only difference is that professional tripods are much heavier. Still, this tripod is stable even in windy conditions, which makes it my favorite tripod to carry with me for projects away from the studio. Actually, I find myself using this tripod more than any of the more hi-end professional tripods in our studio. Panning and tilt are fluid, set up is quick and easy, and the quick release attachment makes it fast and simple to transfer my video camera on and off the tripod. The remote handle is ideal because it eliminates the need to touch the camera, which prevents camera-shake caused by having to depress the button on the camera to start and stop recording. If you want an excellent tripod that performs like the professionals without having to spend alot of money, this is definitely the tripod to buy.
"Sturdy but lacking in certain key areas", This tripod is sturdy and is taller than most which is important to me as i want my camera to be at eye level or higher. The cheaper versions with remote are shorter although lighter.
The single biggest problem with this tripod is the remote control for the zoom. It is reverse of what would be intuitive. Pushing the buttom IN zooms OUT; likewise pushing OUT zooms IN. I even tried to rewire the switch but didn't find a way to do so. I had soder iron at the ready, but the fine ribbon cable was too delicate for the necessary surgery to make me rate this tripod high. While its no fluid head; the pans and tilts are fairly smooth. Smooth enough for what I use it for which is capturing my kids' sporting events.
Lastly, for the price i'm willing to put up with the backward ergonomics of the zoom. You just have to 'think' about your zooms more than you would prefer to.
Great price from the remanufacture site...
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"Disappointed - could be a lot better", RE: SONY 870RM TRIPOD
The fluid head is really fine for pans and tilts - exceptionally smooth for the relatively low cost.
HOWEVER - the design and build of the neck (yoke) and leg assembly is weak. The unit I received actually "twists" as I pan the camera. Even with the leg spreader wide open, the yoke assembly that supports the legs at the top is just not adequate for the resistance offered by the pan head. I could try reinforcing the yoke by adding screws through it into each leg but I'm sure that would void the warranty.
My $60. Velbon brand tripod is more sturdy in this regard however its pan head is not as good as the Sony and it it does not have the remote control.
The remote control on the handle requires a "LANC" connection receptacle on the camcorder. It will start and stop the tape in the camera.
The problem is with the zoom control. Although it allows you to smoothly vary the speed of the zoom, the design is backwards! The zoom requires the camera operator to push backward to zoom IN and forward to zoom OUT - the exact opposite of the zoom rocker switch on the camera!!! Totally illogical. I could get used to it but it's just another unnecessary quirk to put up with.
I will probably be returning this unit or at least exchanging it for another in the hope that its legs don't twist.
"Absolutely great tripod for movie camera", excellent and cheap...panning acts almost like the $400+ tripods for movie cameras...and the controls in the handle add to the convenience and control of "shaky" movement...sold...stable...tall...worth the price
"VCT870RM Tripod", Great tripod. We're using it in a television studio w/Sony VX-2000 cameras. They work great!
"DCR-DVD505", When I purchased this tripod, my husband thought it was just another tripod. After he used it the first time, he guards this tripod with his life. He LOVE this tripod! The tripod is like a magnet because it always brings questions and people to the tripod. We have the Sony DCR-DVD505 and the remote on the handle of the tripod works GREAT with our camera. The height adjustment and everything was made perfect! We are not disappointed!
"Exactly what I was looking for", This is both my first camcorder and tripod. So this'll be a newb review. I was using a standard tripod a friend let me borrow, which was not built for panning. Then I bought this baby and man! Smooth as silk panning left and right and up and down. Can shoot without seeing coverage "jiggle". It comes also with a black carrying bag with a shoulder strap with Sony tagged on it. When you put the camcorder on (mines a HDR-SR1), it has an easy platform you screw into the camera and just snaps on top of the tripod. I'm not really great at having a steady finger zooming in and out while panning the camera in your hand using my index finger, but with the tripod it's a little easier since you can use your "thumb" instead. Video game console controllers has a lot to do with that . Other than that, it has a pretty sleek look colored with a metalic bronze intead of the standard silver everyone usually has. But definately, I was hoping for better panning and this nailed it. If you know another tripod that does that at less of a price, let me know and I'll get that one instead.
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