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"This is a great game; not a waste of your time at all."
I too, am a fan of Star Wars and more specificly the Dark Forces games. I have all the previous games myself, but bought the Collector's Edition just for the purpose of collecting it. Jedi Outcast or Jedi Knight 2 or Dark Forces III or whatever you want to call it, is a great game. I haven't beaten it yet, but I am having a blast playing it. Sure, it's no Half-Life, but it is most definitely fun and not a waste of time. So, regardless of which case you buy this game in, I strongly recommend getting it. If you don't get the Collector's Edition, be sure to at least get Dark Forces and Jedi Knight because those are fun as well.

"Incredible...the best in the series..."
I own all of the Dark Forces games (yes, Jedi Knight is a spur off of Dark Forces) and this game is incredible. I have not yet stopped playing it. I am a complete geek when it comes to Star Wars and it is usually hard to please me with Star Wars games, but Lucas Arts did a fine job with this one. Definately a must buy!

"This game is another perfect edition to the Star Wars legacy"
This is one of the best packs you can buy!!! Is has all three Star Wars computer-games including JK2: Jedi Outcast which is very very fun. Besides being a very good FPS, having the force to push you enemies, throw your lightsaber, and pick up your dead enemies weapons is the best!!! The graphics are great, almost as good as RTCW, but the multiplayer is pretty close to RTCW. It is great to battle other on-line members with your lightsaber in the all-lightsaber battles. So if you like Star Wars, first-person-shooters, and killing storm troopers with lasers and a lightsaber, this is definitely a great deal for you.

It gets 5/5 stars.

"Totally Awesome!"
Jedi Outcast is a great game! I am not even a big Star Wars fan and I love it! The single player has a tolerable plot and loads of shoot-em-up action with a selection of weapons that can't be beat! Of course, you get to use the force in it too. Some force powers available in the game are push, pull, grip, and lightning. Also, no Star Wars game would be complete without the all-famous lightsaber. There are several things you can do with the lightsaber: three different swing stances, block throw...etc. Jedi Outcast also comes with a complete Multiplayer for all you Internet fans out there. The Multiplayer garantees several hours of fun with a selection of games to choose from such as Capture the Flag, Deathmatch, Lightsaber Dueling, and many more. Jedi Outcast is full of action-packed explosive fun with great graphics and unimaginable weapons, creatures and landscapes which will leave u clicking your mouse in excitement long into the night!

"Very fun buy lockups very often."
This is an extremely fun game, but..
locks-up very often. It locks up the mouse and keyboard. The only option is to reboot. I cannot find anything on their website for a fix. I am using Windows2000 with an open GL graphics card.

 

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"Oldies but goodies", While the individual games are great, putting JK2, JK & the original DF together in a single bundle doesn't maximize your gaming experience. But first, a summary:

The games are part of a series of "First Person" games that came to a conclusion with "Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Academy" which isn't part of this bundle. All three games represent the same basic idea with different forms of execution and different degrees of sophistication which hint at the years that separate each one.

In DF, you are Kyle Katarn - a mercenary who occasionally works for the rebellion, but never with it. You track down various clues of a new Imperial weapon, "The Dark Trooper". Your search will take you from industrial planets to remote ice-bound fortresses; from the floating city of "Nar Shadaa" to the Imperial Capitol of Coruscant; from the private yacht of Jabba the Hutt to an Imperial star destroyer. Graphics and gameplay are crude - reflecting the state of 1994: graphics don't hint at distances as well as later games, and simple movement becomes unnecessarily clunky, such that simple things like jumping from one platform to another will send you into cheat mode. The sound is definitely circa 1994 - though the effects are okay, the music is annoying MIDI. Head movements are similarly clunky - you can turn your head or incline it, but not with the same controls. You'll soon feel less like you're playing a person than driving a car (many players complained of feeling car-sick, but sticking with the game nonetheless). The story is actually interesting, but it's painfully dated - especially when paired with the newer games.

Jedi Knight stands the test of time better, being a massive leap over DF. You've got a game engine that accurately represents distances and perspectives, more intuitive movement controls and much better sound. Weapons sound nastier, and John Williams's score beautifully punctuates every scene. The story flows like a movie - adding up to an immersive experience that easily stands the test of time. Inventively, the game incorporates cheats as "Jedi Powers", and even throws in usable lightsabres. As Kyle Katarn, you hunt down an evil Jedi warlord named Jerec - the man who killed Kyle's father (and no, Jerec isn't Kyle's father). Learning that Jerec (who leads a cult of other evil Jedi, and hordes of stormtroopers) is himself searching for a mysterious Jedi burial ground oozing with the force-power of thousands of Jedi, Kyle's mission changes from one of vengeance to the salvation of the galaxy. Though you have a lightsaber, there are few actual battles here, and I found them the weakest part of the game. The graphics engine isn't up to modeling the many graceful and lethal moves of the duels of the movies, and I'd be lying if I said that the engine wasn't dated. Other forms of battle, problem solving and level navigation more than make up for that. One problem though - LA released an expansion of JK called "Mysteries of the Sith" - not quite as good as JK, it's still an unmissable experience, and you should hunt it down either separately or find a version of JK that has it included.

"Outcast" is probably the game that will occupy most of your time - it's easily the hardest one in terms of enemy AI, counterintuitive problem solving, number of enemy Jedis and overall length. Compared to the older JK, there were many instances where I just had to re-play the same moment over and over again. In Outcast, you are again Kyle Katarn. The empire having been defeated, has been reduced to pockets of resistance called "The Remnants". Working for the Republic, you regularly infiltrate Remnant strongholds - but in one you learn of a plot involving Remnant forces and an army of evil Jedis called "Reborn". Your mission will take you from a volcanic world used as a prison colony/slave-labor camp to the stratospheric avenues of Bespin's Cloud City; from Luke Skywalker's Jedi Academy on Yavin 4 (last seen as the hidden rebel base in "Star Wars") to a remnant battlecruiser. The game uses the same graphics engine as the newer "Jedi Academy", but is much more challenging than that game - with longer levels and probably more of them. At the same rate, it took me about 4 times as long to polish off Outcast as it did Academy.

PICK UP YOUR VISUAL SCANNING: Outcast is easily the most hardware-intense of the three games, though I ran it smoothly on my old P4 2ghz, 512mb PC. The game IS choosy when it comes to graphics cards - it wouldn't run until I swapped my old Savage card for a GeForce3 (I had no such problems running "Voyager: Elite Force" even though the two games have the same graphics engine) so check the LA website before you buy. I had no XP compatibility issues for JK - again a worthy game even as it nears its 10th birthday.

"Fun game, too easy", Dont get me wrong, this was a pretty fun game and the story was decent. Graphics were good and enjoyable...

The game would deem a challenge if it weren't for force powers. I mean, the game was more of a challenge pre-lighsaber. Granted it was just the first few levels so it couldn't be anything too hardcore. If the game was restricted like the first few levels, it would have deems difficult, but it isn't now is it?

The game becomes tedious and boring right about then. Force Speed + Lightsaber = Everyone Dies....At the offset of an engagement, activate force speed and you whip around too fast for anyone to kill you. So every bad guy you come across, you activate that and run at them causing their demise. Not to mention the force choke off high place ;-)

overall the game was fun, but it loses a lot of points because it gets too easy with the force speed followed by lightsaber attack...

"good, but a Litlle challenging:", Please, be warned, before you read my review that my views are not usually looked upon as the popular choice, but hey I speak my mind.

Firstly, they don't just drop you off a cliff, so to speak, like in DFII, and they do allow for you to get used to the controls before real combat. The levels are intricate and innovative, whereas the game is long (unless you use cheat codes, it is the shortened to around 6 hours.) Also, unlike in DFII, the game gets interesting from the start. You have to use strategy throughout the game, instead of just going: SHOOT EM' UP SHOOT EM' UP!!!

Also, the weapons get unique. the Tenloss DX/R disruptor Sniper rifle is a favorite of mine, as well as the Destructive Elctromagnetic Pulse Weapon: Type 2 (DEMP 2). also, the lightsaber is much more realistic in this than DFII. For example, you can chop off limbs in both games, but you can only chop at the shoulder in DFII, where in JKII, you can chop of the hand, the forearm, even the head off. The seeking missle option on the Merr-Sonn PMX portable missle launcher is quite extraordinary. Det. packs are much an asset as well.

The NPC's are extremely intelligent in JKII. they can see you firing and run away. Also, they will fire at spots you can't deflect easily.

The force is quite interesting, allowing that you are a Dark and Light jedi at the same time, with powers such as grip, lightning, heal, and protect. Grip is cool because you can move your enemy around, dropping them off cliffs or using them as shields. The lightsaber throw is quite cool.

Allowing that you are hardcore enough to learn the lightsaber moves by heart, the duels are interesting. I prefer the "death from above" combo in medium style. you do a flip wityh your lightsaber making a horizontal slash while inverted. This is a hard move to time, but causes instant death to anyone who it hits.

THE PRECEDING WAS A REVIEW OF JKII ONLY!!!

"Lucas puts out a real winner", What can I say, I was not totally sure I would like this first person shooter/Third person when with lightsaber. Im sure now.
The game is well worth it! Many hours of fun!
A TRUE WINNER!!!

"Game of the year", This is a great deal if I were you I'd play the in order it makes sense that way (did I spell That right oh well hey i'm 11 but I play alot of video games sure you adults listen to other adults still get it and if you don't you missed out on a great deal later



 
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"Grows on you - highly addictive!", When I first installed the game, I was a little disappointed that it didn't seem as "real" as Half-Life, Ghost Recon, or AvP2. After awhile, though... it didn't matter. I was having fun.

Mechanically, the game seems to have taken a small step back toward "Tomb Raider", but it's still a lot better than it's Star Wars predecessors. Graphically, the game is leaps and bounds more stunning than Ghost Recon, but would have looked even better using the Half-Life engine.

Gameplay is relatively easy compared to the control interfaces of the aforementioned games. The boss levels are very challenging, even on some of the easier game settings.

Great attention to detail throughout. Good job LucasArt's, Raven Software, and Activision for putting this all together.

Well worth the money. If you're a Star Wars fan, you'll really enjoy this one.

"lightsaber saves the gameplay", Jedi Knight 2 overall is a very fun game, but if the lightsaber wasn't in the game, then it wouldn't be anything near what it is now. It starts out pretty slow on the story side and the action side. The initial weapons aren't very much fun to use and so I was playing pretty much just to get the lightsaber. Then I got it... and the force powers... Now, the combination of these makes this game VERY FUN! As soon as you get the saber, the action picks up. The ability to push your enemies and then use your saber on them while they are trying to get up is really fun. The story is satisfying but not brilliant. It can't compare to the story of Baldur's Gate II, but this is an action game so the story is not the strongest part, which is usual. At least, it gives you enough reason to slice through your enemies. The best part of the gameplay is the saber duels. They are challenging, but really fun!! They are some of the best action sequences since Half-Life.

The accompanying graphics are great. The models of the enemies and their animations are very well done. The shining helmets of the imperial forces and their death animations are brilliant, including the saber animations. The sounds are also really well done. The saber sounds are especially wonderful; it really immerses you into the Kyle Katarn character, and you feel like you are actually using the saber.

Finally a word on the collector's edition: It is a very good deal. The previous jedi knight games were known for their story-driven gameplay with great action sequences. Especially dark forces II is still engaging, and even though it looks dated, it is worth the 10 extra bucks. There is also a key chain in the shape of a saber, which is soooo big that I don't think I'll use it as a 'key-chain' at all. Looks nice on my table though...

Final verdict? This game is great. It might not be the best action game of the year, but it still is a lot of fun. Come on now, how many games give you a saber to play with accompanied with great graphics and sound? Buy this game, you won't be sorry!

"Three of the best shooters ever made", If you haven't played Dark Forces or Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight, then get this collector's edition, as they contain both these excellent titles as well as Jedi Outcast. If you already have these games, get the normal version... .Now, on to the game.

Be warned- if you aren't good at shooters, Jedi Outcast will be a very hard game. It was possible to beat DF I and II with minimal skill at other shooters like Half-life or Unreal, but it isn't any longer. This is largely due to the absence of auto-aiming, which made mowing down a roomful of stormtroopers with the blaster rifle a simple task in the previous games. Now you'd either have to land a head shot every time, or have something that makes a very large explosion. Kyle seems to have lost his knack for firing while moving, and he doesn't move as fast or jump as high as he used to. Must be getting old and tired, but who can blame the guy? Enemies are also tougher across the board, and move a lot faster and smarter than they did in previous games. They also back each other up, retreat if wounded, and make effective use of cover.

Jedi Knight II uses the Quake III engine, and really pushes it to the limit. This is good and bad. On one hand, the graphics are incredible. On the other, if you don't have a reasonably powerful PC and graphics card, you probably won't be able to run the game with any of the incredible graphics. It's pretty important you are able to see the new effects, because when it comes down to it, the gameplay isn't a whole lot more different than Jedi Knight I.

On that note, this sequel pretty much adheres to the premise of the series. Many of the weapons will be quite familiar, and the enemies you encounter even more so. There is, however, much more interaction in this game- you can hear enemies chatting, view security camera feeds, and generally play with the environment more. Many objects in the environment are fully destructible, some spectacularly so. One of my favorite parts was driving one of the mouse robots by remote control. After shooting about a million of them in the last two games, it was kinda cool to see things from their perspective :-)

Overall, the game is an improvement over DF 2, though you might notice a lack of greater depth in the levels since the Q3 engine doesn't do those well. The puzzles in the missions are still there, but be warned that some of them are quite counterintuitive and obscure. I've already been stuck several times, and when I finally learned how to get out (usually from consulting with other players) it was always something I would never have imagined to do- I won't be a spoiler here and blow anything for you, in case you want a shot. At any rate, I've found myself wishing they'd included the strategy guide in this edition.

If you haven't played any of the old Dark Forces games, now's a great time to start! They're awesome, and you'll probably want to play Outcast after finishing them. As for Outcast itself, it's tough but in a good way. If anything, it's worth getting just to see an incredibly detailed rendition of the Star Wars universe.

"Amazing game, with (small) reservations...", JK2 is not a perfect game. Its problems include:

1. Some strange, nonsensical puzzles that almost demand that you read a cheat guide or walkthrough. Too many "how do I jump there?" or "where is the switch/key?" puzzles, especially early on in the game.

2. An very high level of difficulty.

3. Some of the graphics look cartoony or washed-out, even with all the settings at "high" at 1024x768. Using "very high" texture detail will bog down virtually any system in the outdoor areas.

So why did I give this game 5 stars? Because, in spite of its small annoyances it is an incredibly fun game. There are games with better graphics like Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Max Payne, but JK2 is still a very good-looking game overall with lots of flashy visual effects. It starts as a pretty conventional first-person shooter, but once you get the lightsaber and force powers the game kicks into overdrive. When you get the hang of it, the lightsaber is the weapon you will use 90% of the time... not only is it powerful, but it is by far the most fun weapon ever put into an action game. Raven crossed the lightsaber fighting in the movies with a dose of Matrix-style acrobatics for some of the most dizzying, craziest fun you've ever had on a PC. JK2 really does give you something that no other shooter can. It also boasts 24 HUGE levels and plenty of replay value.

Multiplayer also works extremely well and is alot of fun, with a wide variety of game types and configuration options. The sound effects are first-rate. JK2 is also extremely stable and bug-free.

The bottom line: if you like action games, or anything involving Star Wars, get this game!

"JKII Rules All!!!!", I've been waiting for this game for a long, long time. And thankfully, it was well worth the wait. For the single player, the gameplay is excellent, the cinematics are of the expected stunning quality, and the plot is very well laid out too. The multiplayer is beyond awesome. It features Duels in tournament style, Free for alls, Team FFA, you name it. Hours of endless entertainment. Well worth the price and well worth the wait. If you liked the other Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games, this one will blow you away. Guaranteed.

 
 
 

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