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"I'm confused!"
Having read all 15 reviews currently posted here, my understanding is that any of the books mentioned in them requires the installation of the software itself before you can even start working with those books.

So whether the tutorial in this product is sufficient to teach the VB fundamentals or not, the product is still needed as the software environment you have to install before delving into any tutorial, whether that tutorial comes with or without a CD. Am I right or does Windows already have the VB software hidden where I can't find it?!!!!

Would someone, please, advise! I need to buy something soon. Thanks.

"There is a better, cheaper product available"
For [$] you can get the book "Learn to Program with Visual Basic 6" by John Smiley. It is for beginners, comes with a CD, and is very easy to understand.

"Visual Basic 6.0 LE Differences Between the Editions"
Microsoft provides the Learning Edition in my opinion as a starting point for programmers in Visual Basic (VB) and the other languages they sell IDE enviroments for, as I do not know of any other learning edition products by them.

The product comes boxed up for $... as of now, and this is a very good price for an integrated devleopment enviroment (IDE), especially by them - the professional edition costs several hundred dollars more, and the enterprise edition - a thousand or so more.

The learning edition comes with several tutorials, but those aren't mine to speak of because I skipped them 9 I bought Visual Basic Step by Step by Micheal Halvorson, Microsoft Press instead).

Moving along, the learning edition does not have several things that the professional edition offers, just as the enterprise edition has several things the professional edition doesn't have available.

The learnign edition is meant for beginners who don't plan to do any higher scale programming - it doesn't come with the MAPI email control nor the Internet transfer control, so internet programming with Microsoft controls is not an option - Also not available are "User Controls" these are a special type of Visual Basic project that are similiar to regular ActiveX controls. These things allow reusable graphical interfaces which are pre programmed to be inserted into the program. Also not available are property pages - something used when creating a compiled ActiveX control. And finally for soem odd reason User Documents aren't insertable - Not sure why though.

The Professional edition comes with extra controls such as the MCI audio and Internet/MAPI controls. These can be useful, and I use third party controls for doing these tasks as I do not need the extra features of the Professional Edition, which I will discuss briefly in a moment.

The learning edition is meant for beginners, hence the name 'learning' edition. As such it does not include any of the more advanced compiling options and project types. There are things such as what kind of CPU code should be outputted ot the binary, or what type of machine it shoudl be compield for (16 BIT or 32 BIT)...

As the editions move up in broadness and price, more project types become available. In the professional edition the option to make compiled ActiveX controls and Dynamic Link Libraries is available. Moving up to the biggest - the Enterprise Edition, things such as Management Console snapins can be written (a tool for managing large networks).

Overall, Microsoft's Visual Basic development enviroment is not the most powerful, and there is much better out there. The things possible in VB are canned routines - getting deeper into the Windows Application Programing Interface (API) requires declaring long winded blocks of code with HEX constants and other values to call them.

Note: The API is for performing functions directly related ot controllign the Windows enviroment (i.e. making a program window stay on top at all times)

I've tried to sum up the differences and the reasoning behind how Microsoft constructed their Visual Basic product line as best I could, and if I am incorrect, I apologize - and please let me know.

"Exe files with Visual Basic Learning Edition"
Mr. Geoffery Brown is incorrect in his statement that the Learning Edition will not make an EXE file. I have been in contact with a Mr. "Lee Thornton" who assures me that it will in fact make an EXE file as well as build apps that will self-install (Setup). I found Mr. Browns review very confusing.

"Very limited, ultimately"
I bought this book in hopes that I would be able to "pick up" VB since I had programmed for many years: COBOL, various assembly languages, etc.

VB, of course, is a different kind of language -- more like an RPG than a COBOL because so much of VB consists of canned routines that you can either find in the interface or you cannot. A lot of using VB efficiently is a matter of being able to remember which pull-down menu has what you need on it, and what the options (properties, I think, is the right word) for each control are.

As far as leading you through that maze, the book is pretty good.

One huge limitation in the Learning Edition is that you can use it only for learning. In other words, you cannot make an executable file with it. I finally got frustrated and took a college course in VB. At the first lecture, the professor warned us against getting the Learning Edition -- because we would not be able to e-mail him the executable from the labs we would be doing for him. The Professional Edition lets you do this.

In other words, buying the Learning Edition is a little bit like buying a car without an engine. You can practice all you want with it, but you can't drive it anywhere.

Best advice is save your money and buy the real thing.

 

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"My honest desire to be an accounting system analyst.", Choosing a software to use and start in programing should be easy and detailed to understand. Many of my friends adviced me to own a Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 Learning Edition to support my limited knowledge in computer operations. I am a novis user, with VB 6.0 learning edition, positively it will be a great help to impart the " What to do & What to start in programing".May be my dream to be an accounting system analyst will start from here.

"Visual Basic 6 Enterprise is the best!!", (...) I think Visual Basic is the best and easy development language you can get. I've got the enterprise edition and it really is packed with lots of fetures and stuff that will speed up code time. There's only one things that dissappoint me with Visual Basic, it is: Visual Basic does not have a truly advanced Internet programming like C++. I can't wait to upgrade to Visual Basic.Net because if VB6 is this good then how good can VB6.Net be(...)

"Temptress", I have been using VB since it came out right after VC. I have owned every upgrade and am a professional C++ programmer, and I love VB. It's like candy. It's so easy to use. Just a medium amount of programming experience can create wonderful programs. In the earlier additions there was some confusion about global variables, user written procedures and subroutines. They were in separate locations causing confusion, but everything is on one page now. You can see every bit of your code by scrolling up and down a single page.

Now for the down side, there is a lot left out of the learning edition. I can't really fault Microsoft. If they are going to have lesser and better versions then they have to leave something out of the lesser.

Finally and perhaps most important don't forget to use the wealth of help and information found on the online help section. Leave you Internet on and while in VB go up to help and select online help. There is an entire library at your disposal. Try a search, or read general information on a topic. Anything and everything you might want to know is there. Unfortunately in the learning addition most of the advanced functionality is left out. So this wonderful library just tempts you.

"I'm impressed!", Visual Basic make programming a snap! I'm building GUI's quickly and easily. Motif for C and Swing for Java can't compare in this regard. In fact, it's almost FUN.

"Very limited control selection", I was flabbergasted to find out that the basic chart control does not ship with this edition. I need very simple graphs, and none of that functionality is available. no MSChart, or Microsoft graph in this version. Make sure you check the list of included controls... for the your needs before you buy this.



 
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"Good Place to Start", I bought the Learning Edition because the other ones were too expensive, especially if I decided that VB was not the direction for me. I found the help files and demonstrations very useful and when I decided to upgrade to a more detailed version, I got the special upgrade price so I hadn't lost anything. I agree that you could certainly get a good book to go along with it; I would recommend "Visual Basic 6: From the Ground Up" by Gary Cornell. Overall, I give this top marks for being precisely what it is supposed to be; a Learning Edition.

"Review fo your product description", I'd like to see a succint description of the differences between VB6.0 Profeesional and VB6.0 learning edition. I haven't seen this any where.

"If your a beginner, read this", This product is visual basic 6 for beginners. Do not think that this software will teach you how to write vb code, it wont, I know, ha ha. Im a senior in college who learned how to write vb from a book called, visual basic 6.0, step by step, the author is Michael Halvorson. This is an excellent book for the "beginner", who wants directions on how to do everything. Its a very well written book, and if you by that book with this software, youll be and intermediate level vb programmer in no time. Just remember, buy the step by step book, unless your not a programming beginner.

"At $84.99, I wish it had more", A couple of people have made critiques about the "book". What book? There is no book! You get a leaflet on installation and oh yes, there is this thing that gives you sample chapters from three actual books on Visual Basic 6.0. They were Microsoft Press products, of course. The entire program is via a CD.

It was slow going for me at first, I had to constantly adjust the various windows from both the tutorial and from the actual Visual Basic 6.0 compiler to view everything I needed. I was using 1152 by 864 resolution. Fortunately after a while, I learned how to size and place things so that I would need little readjustment later. You will spend the first 10% to 20% of the course becomming familiar with the Visual Basic programming environment before delving into actual code. It took a bit of getting used to. I had been previously using C++ and QBASIC compilers for short math/physics related programs (I am getting a mechanical engineering degree). At first you will spend most of your time learning what icon does what and what window is for what.

The tutorial became easier after I knew what icon to click or what window to open. There are "videos" of programming that you can just watch but should either mimic step by step or follow making your own variations in code.

There are tweleve quizzes with about seven questions each. If you had done some programming before, you can usually guess most of the answers after only skimming the text. I wish the program gave me more objectives, however (writing my own versions of what I was SUPPOSED to write wasn't enough). I completed the course still a bit weary about starting a project. I'll have to go back over some parts of the course before starting something even remotely complicated.

Keep in mind that this course really only covers the fundamentals. It ends with the basics of object-oriented programming. If you want to learn enough Visual Basic to be capable of professional work, you'll probably need to buy an intermediate or advanced level book on VB 6.0.

"Disappointing", This product was very good at showing the basic principles of Visual Basic but after the initial example program, the text became very technical, defintely not for the first time programmer ( there was absolutely no help in learning to write code).

The examples were next to impossible to find on the accompanying software. File names were different from those cited in the book.

Overall I would not recommend this product but would steer the beginner towards John Smiley's products.

 
 
 

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