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Others say..."You Can Safely Skip This One"This book is far from being memorable. It introduced me to the fascinating world of typography and teaches a few tricks on keeping your web files and pictures as small as possible, but that is pretty much it. The author distinction among first, second, and third generation web sites is interesting, but not heart stopping, whereas he seems to really emphasize it too much. Plus, in 2002, this text is outdated. "It is a killer"It takes to other dimension of programing which is creativity to feel and and go inside the real art of designing. I just wish he would come up with more books. "Good For Me, the newbie"I've just started doing this book. I had it lying around for years, from since it was first published in '97. Because I didn't own Photoshop at the time, I couldn't make head or tail of it. I had put it aside and did my amateur website through MS FrontPage. I finally got me Photoshop and now the book suddenly starts to make sense. I have Photoshop 6.o, the latest, but use it to do exercises designed for lower releases-no problem!
I don't care one way or the other about all the good and the bad reviews, I'm threading my way slowly, and discerning order out of chaos. To me, this book is good. It's an enjoyable read and I've learned so much-so far, about color palettes. It has cleared up a lot of stuff that use to confuse me. And I'm sure there is a lot more great stuff to come as I go through it. My humbly advice to newbies is: use this material as a stepping-stone-(you must possess a copy of Photoshop of course). Then, look for more advance, or better stuff. It pays to learn all you can, from every corner. Pat.
"outdated" This book was a nice idea, but so outdated it couldn't possibly be useful anymore. Layout with pixel shims? Forcing paragraph indents with non-breaking spaces? You must be kidding me. If you take some of Siegel's advice and use a table to lay out an entire web page, packed with graphics besides, do you really think anyone is going to wait for it to load? Siegel also needs to get it through his head that a web page is *not* a printed page and traditional page layout and typography don't transfer well. If he treated web pages more as information sources and less as art projects this book might get you somewhere, but as it is the pages detailed here are only slightly better than useless.
"Nice but not realistic" This book is a great book if you want to learn to design the greatest web sites. However, for professional web designers, this is not a reality, but only a dream, unless you live out in San Fransisco California. David Siegel will show you a lot of awe inspiring work, and tell you a lot of useful things, however his design ideas are unrealistic. Most the time when designing sites for clients, you are dealing with people who hardly have the internet, and want this and that, and all sorts of web design "no-no's". They want the standard, buttons on the left with, banners/headers on top, and very little done with the bottom of the page. Most companies are on a budget and don't set much aside for us web designers. Oh yeah, this book also assumes you have at least several Adobe Products (which most web designers should) I give this book a 3 for 3 reasons (positive). 1) It's very inspiring. 2) It's an easy read, and Siegel presents the information very well. 3) It talks about some important issues. The two reasons I give this book a bad mark are 1) Most the book is not written by David Siegel, but rather, his employees. But, Siegel has some sorta ego problem, so go fig. 2) It's expensive for such a thin book which does not contain that much information. It's expensive because it's printed on what seems like photo realistic paper, and is kinda shiny, and a lot of typographic layout goes into the design of this book. This book is a must for all newbie web-designers who probably live on geocities, angelfire, etc.
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What our customer's say!"Excellent Book", This book is one that gives you inspiration. I liked looking at the web sites before my creative juices start to flow. "Pretentious and outdated", I got the first edition of this book when I first started working on web sites. I learned a few tidbits from it, but mostly I was (un) impressed by the author's arrogant attitude about "artists." He rambled on about how what they wanted to do to be creative in their site design was more important than what the technology was doing, or how the user experienced the site. (A lot like Kai Krause's "creative" interfaces that he was proud to note that techies didn't get!) His attitude about developers vs. artists and designers was especially distasteful, even though in the end he proved he really was a techie inside all along. I don't get the people who see this as a milestone. It's more like a millstone around the neck of web designers and developers. I think it did more to widen the gulf between designers and developers than help us work together. Leaf through this online or in a library, glean what you can from the few techie tips that are still worthwhile, then put it down. If you're a web developer or architect, you won't get much out of it, and if you're on the design or business side you will only get the wrong idea about what web site design is all about.
"A classic book on web design.", Though somewhat dated, there is still good information in this classic book on web design. The website is also packed with information and it has recently been updated with up to date content among other nice features. Check it out at: www.killersites.com
"Good guidelines", This book doesn't teach you html. You should already know html before you buy this book. This book teaches you how to design good looking web sites. Personally, I don't think this can be taught. There are many examples of good and bad sites, before and after sites, but the old saying, "Can't teach an old dog new tricks" goes when it comes to art and design. Fortunately, these things are very subjective. What is bad to me, may be good to you. But in the end, there are only so few that really deserve to win a bikini contest.
"Pretty outdated", I bought this book and sat down to read it with great excitement, but that feeling has gradually dimmed as I get further into it. It does have the occasional handy tip, but mostly it's too outdated to be of any great use. Most of the sites he uses as examples of killer sites are not so great by the standards of today, and at least one that he uses as a major worked example in his gallery section as a site he created, has since been redesigned by other designers and is totally different. I'm just glad I picked it up cheap. It's definately a book that's well overdue for a revision.
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Read this reviews before You buy..."disappointed", Based on the high reviews for this book, I was excited to pick this one up. (Although I wasn't pleased about the hefty price tag.) I skimmed through it last night and was let down in a big way. I was hoping this book would tell me something I didn't know or at least be a useful reference book to sit next to my computer. Unfortunately, this one isn't a keeper. I'll have to continue my hunt for a decent design book.
"This is a historically important book for web design", If in about 5-10 years, someone chose to write a book about the development of web design, this book would rank at or near the top. This is probably the book that truly unleashed the so-called second-generation concept of web design on the world, for better or worse. Do you want to know about how to use tables for layouts, use transparent 1-pixel GIFs as spacers or "shims" to keep everything from getting wobbly, and how to use GIF-text images in conjunction with actual text to make your page look just the way you, the designer, want it to? All those techniques are explained here in great detail, with lots of examples, plus you can look at the companion website for source code.
Of course this second edition came out in 1997 - and now it's 2000, and many of the techniques he explains are outdated. Current-day standards advocates, usability experts and the like deplore the kinds of methods described here. Yet, probably most of the "designed" websites out there that are not using just the latest techniques or the the other extreme - just using plain-looking text layouts - are using at least a few of the techniques detailed here. So if you are new to HTML and web design, and you want to know how to make your pages look like much of what's on the web right now, this book is a must. "HTML Magic", which covers the much of the same material, is also recommended.
"Be very careful when purchasing this book", This book should be called "Creating Killer web sites WITH Photoshop 4". The techniques are made for Photoshop 4. If you do not use that program do not buy this book as it is expensive. Secondly the advice on web site creation from the book is outdated and out moded. Even the author has recanted and said that the way web design is out lined in this book IS NOT the way to go. He flip flops and totally does a 180 in his new book "Secrets of Succesful web sites". Therefore this book is 1) expensive 2) oudated 3) over rated 4) a waste of time and money 5) by the authors own admission- flawed Skip it....
"Still cutting edge after all these years", David Siegel is truly a master of this craft. Despite flames by his obviously narrow-minded, envious detractors, Siegel's message is this: unify graphic and informational content in a way that will amaze your clientele and keep them coming back for more. This book sets the standard for thinking "outside the box." If you are a minimalist, or prefer the latest in Flash/Shockwave over-the-top design the book is equally relevant. It is not about "design your site exactly like this," but an inspiration to spark your own creative juices. Don't be scared off by Siegel's nay-sayers. Take the book for a test drive. You won't regret it.
"Good as a reference, not a primer", I agree with most of the reviewers who stress Web content over style and who criticize the design practices in this book. This doesn't mean that "Creating Killer Web Sites" is a bad book, it just means you should extract the useful parts of it without being compelled to design fluffy, image oriented sites. I found this book useful because it provided some very helpful tips about Web graphics, color pallets, PhotoShop, etc., which any Web designer needs to master. I found a lot of Siegel's design concepts creative and interesting, but--guess what--I avoided them like the plague. In professional and personal site building I have always had to produce clear, reasonably elegant sites without superfluous imagery. Based on my professional and personal experience, not to mention exposure to other reviewers--I think that's what most people look for in a Web site. Use this book for its many helpful graphic tips, and enjoy its creative ideas. But don't take its site building concepts too seriously.
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