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"I give credit to the title - It made me buy the book" The title was deceiving at first, but it did what it had to do and lead me to reading it.(one of the books teachings) So the title served its purpose whether we took the time to review it before we bought is our problem. (I am guilty of that) The book is good. Yes at first he bombard you with print ads and non web material but then if you read deeper into the book and think about it web design, like any other media is about communication. He does something important and presents a history of printed visual communication methods. The examples that he presents have worked. He does a good job applying these principles to web design. It's a good start for those non-designers and non-artist who want to be web designers. Good design and a simplicity, its all about communication.
"First-year design principles + a lot of hot air" I had a lot of problems with this book beginning with its misleading title. "Web Sites That Work" makes it sound like you can expect some technical information. Not so. There's basically nothing here that actually tells you how to produce a web site that works. There are almost no references to HTML, web-safe colors, CSS, or any other technical aspects of web design. Authored by "ROGER BLACK with Sean Elder", the book is structured like a long softball interview with questions for and quotes from Black & members of his design firm. I found this profoundly irritating; it was distracting and it made the book seem transparently self-serving. As for the content: lots of largely irrelevant glossy photos, not a lot of actual information imparted. If you're looking for a retrospective of Black's career, and lots of pictures of his big pumpkin head, you'll love it. But otherwise there's not a lot here. Black gets around issues like file size & optimization by ignoring them, claiming that everyone will have broadband by the end of 1998 anyway. So he feels free to use big-ass graphics with ludicrous download times to mimic print design. It's 2000 and I don't know about you but I still have a modem. Which may be why I never visit any of the sites that Black designs. And regarding Black's vaunted classic design principles, ANY first year course in design, or basic graphic design text, will teach you everything this book does and more-- and you won't have to swim through Black's heavy egocentric pontification to do it. And how about the design? The book is heavy, expensive, and somewhat pleasing to the eye, but ironically enough it's not designed very well! There's not much organization and a lot of the pictures seem randomly placed on the page. My final judgement: 50% of this book slams everyone else trying to do web design for doing it wrong; 40% of the book lards praise on Black & his lackeys for their approach to design. The other 10% is the useful information that managed to sneak through. I got it on clearance for $2, which is about what it's worth in my estimation. It would be nice if there was a book that taught web programmers about classic design principles-- including how to implement them successfully on the web. But Roger Black's book isn't it.
"Great Standards" Mr. Black raises the standards for great design. Not only on the web or in print but everywhere. It covers the obvious and displays the misterious way in which design gets to be successfull and aesthetically correct.
"I tried, I really tried..." I wanted to like this book, but just couldn't bring myself to. Yes, it's beautifully designed and printed, but somehow too beautifully, almost suspiciously so. Yes, its reads like one long ego-trip/advertisement for Mr Black, but that doesn't mean it might not have some useful content. But finally I had to decide that this is a very shallow piece of work. Mr Black, from the evidence presented here, seems to have propelled his web-design career by stating the obvious. Using classic fonts, bold imagery and elegant design to communicate ideas isn't exactly revelatory stuff. Managing your staff in such a way that they talk to each other isn't exactly MBA-worthy, either. Even if we can forgive the self-promotion, I'm not so sure about dressing up a book on simple design principles as some kind of web-design bible, especially as this book is woefully lacking in any technical detail. For what its worth, if you want a good beginners guide to designing for the web, you can do worse than Lynda Weinman and Jacob Neilson. After that, dissect the source code of any sites you particularly admire.
"Lots of flash, mostly trash" Although this book is very pretty with lots of ink, thick pages, and nice graphics, I thought that the information value was very low. All of the information that was worth anything could have fit in a magazine article. This book seems to be a "look how cool Roger Black is" book, and it even has a little section in the back all about Roger Black, in case you didn't catch it from the rest of the book. Roger Black's Web work is very nice, so he has a lot to brag about, but this book should not have been the way to go about it. Although his Web design may work for certain audiences, there's much more to it than this very opinionated (and limited) version. He should stick to magazine design. Don't waste your money. This book is not only over-priced because of the flashy presentation, but it's not even worth the content.
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What our customer's say!"A web site hobbyist gets schooled", I run a website purely as hobby. Having never taken a single graphic design or html course, or read a single book on the subject, I picked up this book at a book wholesaler and got it out of curiosity. I found it to be a non-threatening and friendly introduction to basic rules of web design. Before I went simply on what I thought looked good and what loaded fast. Now I know just a little bit more that can really make a page work well. Particularly helpful is the chapter called "Web sites that DON'T work." "Black knows what's what", If you're passionate about Web design and want to do it right the first time out, then read Roger's book Web Sites That Work. This is the kind of advice that companies such as MSN and CondeNast pay big bucks for! The book is well-designed itself and almost comes off as a photo essay in parts with plenty of pictures of our hero, Roger Black, studying the Web and transforming pages into online art forms. In this book, you'll learn valuable tips about what to do and NOT to do with your Web site. Roger also speaks extensively on the principles of online navigation, personalization, transaction, teamwork, and the future of the Net. Aside from the stellar pointers, the book has plenty of candid Roger action shots to make any fan jump for joy.
"It's ok, but if you want the best get....", It's ok, Roger definetly has some knowledge. The best information comes from Jakob Nielsen, check out his site useit.com and his books to design successful, user-friendly, and attractive sites.
"Not worth the Money", Though a beautiful book, it's not worth the price tag. The book goes through Mr. Black's career as a designer, both for magazines and web pages. The "web sites that work" are only Mr. Black's. He does not go over other web pages outside his company except to show those that do not work. Some beautiful glossy pages and pictures give you a lot of ideas for your own pages, but that can probably be found elsewhere as well. There is almost no technical information here, just a lot of glossy pictures.
"Great web theory", If you are looking to learn how to build a web site, and intuitive and well thought out web site that is user centric, then this book can offer a lot of good information for you. This book does not gie you HTML code lessons or how to make buttons. What it does do is cover some excellent web theory. As others have mentioned, this book is too full of Roger Black's ego and useless graphics and pictures. Sort through his self boasting and you'll get a good deal out of this book. Is it worth the price? I can honestly say that I did get a lot out of it, but what I got most out of this book was confirmation of my own usability theory of the web. So for me, yes it was worth it.
Read this reviews before You buy..."Think twice", When I first read this book, I loved it. However, as I began to learn more about usability and accessibility on the web, I changed my mind. In fact, this book suggested doing a lot of things that I now refuse to do [ e.g. to use graphics instead of text for pixel-perfect layout and typography, etc. ]. "Web Sites that Work" seems to whisper sweet nothings into the ears of print designers that are new to the web, at the same time misleading them about fundamental concepts. If you're looking for a designer's book about web design, I'd steer clear of this book, perhaps reading Jeffrey Veen's "The Art and Science of Web Design" instead. I recommend Veen's book because it takes more of a middle ground between foundations of print and web design. It covers both the importance of usability and of liquid design on the web. If you're looking for a down-to-earth book about the web, do not interpret this book as the definitive word. Its content is interesting from a typographical and color theory perspective, but you will need to absorb all suggestions therein with a grain of salt.
"Invaluable.", This is without a doubt the best book I have seen on web style. Black distills his vast knowledge and experience down to simple guidelines that never fail. I've had the book for more than a year and I still refer to it for design help. Black is the King of Style.
"Great book on graphical design principles applied to the web", First book I found that really talked about design of web pages from a traditional design point of view. Doesn't focus on technology so much as design principles/rules you need to think about when designing a page and making it really effective (both look and feel). Very easy to read. Well worth the money I paid for it. Don't expect it to be the be all and end all but it is a great place to start if you want to know more about design and not just about 'what looks cool'. Also great book for someone who hadn't done website development before and was expected to manage a large team of very creative (and sometimes pretty out-there) graphic designers and HTML programmers. Also found it useful on other projects where we have engaged web design companies to design the look and feel of our browser based interfaces.
"Good Reference, Graphically Speaking", I enjoyed reading "Websites that Work." I would have to say that it contains much more graphics than helpful, readable information. Being a graphic designer who works in a team designing web sites, I think it proved itself useful to an extent. It provides very basic tips and lots of visual references. I, too, was unsure of why there were so many seemingly unrelated elements in the book (concerning the work of the author and photographs of designers, especially).
"Excellent Overview", I liked this book as an interesting commentary of design issues and where the web is going - It makes interesting reading and gives you something to look at. Its rare to find a book that looks at web design issues.
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